I liked the core quests. They provided a memorable experience for me while playing fable 2. The side quests just took up a lot of time and got to be pretty weird in some cases...*Lady Grey*

The core quests were sweet but felt a little bit underdevoped in that alot of mysteries went unsolved...maybe the big announcement might have something to do with that?

Side quest were but would have liked more quest linked to your family i.e. the rescue or blackmail

Characters were, as ever, the strongest part fo the game

Would have like a wider variety of enemies though. In the special edition walkthrough guide you get a free art book and some of the character concepts i.e. the Hobbe Master looked amazing.Also more boss-type creatures were definitely a big loss to the game i.e. some kind of king troll or alpha balverine

I'm waiting for a stable version to play. Still waiting for patch. Survey looks nice, will complete it later (if it's still available)

This game was the quests were enjoyable if not a little repetitive from the previous title i.e the crucible and the arena

It seems that the main quests took only a short time to complete and left a lot of questions to be answered,

I can't help but feel that Lionheart have been holding out on us the gamers in order to make money on future DLC content which has already been developed.

This will hold us the gamers at hostage while making us pay out more in order to further explore the storyline.

Business savvy yes... fair no

Going to agree with The3ye.  I am waiting to be able to use my content (bought the LE, didn't get a card) and not worry about the myriad of problems I am reading about.

Core quests should have been longer and should have made the player think more and make the battles last longer.
Side quest were but i wanted more of them
Characters had stong personalities and their voice actors were marvelous
Would have liked some of the old features from fable 1 to be in the game such as hotkeys and armour

I agree with Sieg0660 - core quest seemed shorter than Fable 1 - was disappointed it was so easy to kill Lucien.

Love Zoe Wanamaker and Stephen Fry in this!

Filled in the survey.

stephen fry is a god. the tallent in this game was fantastic. the story was a little under cooked but very entertaining. side quest very enjoyable a nd quirky. all thought wish thw bounty quests would scale to my leval. tnx

well the main quests had a little meat in them but most of them and the side quest seemed empty. just like oblivion it was just go fetch this or go do this and thats it...the rewards were shallow and didnt merge themselves to the game just filler.(side quests) who want to go and do a side quest just to get 500 gold when you have millions already. the money system made most of the side quest just useless. where are my prizes like a weapon, clotheing, anything that has substance? our dog is for fetching not the hero. why not make even sidequests a little epic and fun and rewarding and have a little more than just gaining gold or a little renown for it. so i would have to say the main quests are the best.  and by the way im still wanting one of those "pub game codes". please oh pretty please.

nice

Filled the survey.  I'd say the main problem in my eyes is that most enemies are just no challenge.  Once you master melee combat or get even one level-4 spell, the scariest of fable1 monsters(the balverines), go down in one hit.  It just doesn't strike me as a method of battle.  I think this game could be best improved by changing the enemies abilities and movements. Just my thought on the matter.  I am also still in search of a pub games code if you can find it in your heart to provide.  

Filled out the survey... how about a PUB game code? Please?

Filled out the survey.

Filled in the survey.

The game has by far some of the most memorable characters I've ever come across. Oddly enough, my favourite was one that required no voice actor behind it: Chesty. Whomever wrote his lines is a sick, sick person, lol.

Filled out the survey, asked for a pub-game code more then a week ago... like to play the game to an end, with all achievements. It's now gathering dust, and would really like to finish it please...

A few things that I really enjoyed that isn't on the survey was the Real Estate Tycoon part of the game. I'd get excited every time I'd see a new house for sale or see the rent money pop up on my screen.

Also The Achievements were really well done. They were enjoyable to get instead of being a chore and you had some for both side / to make me want to replay the game to see what's different.

Being able to buy the potions to raise my stats to buy new upgrade for my Character. THANK YOU for not making me grind for hours just to get a new Will power, better shooting or strength.  

I can say I wasn't bored for any time playing the game. Though the dungeons could have been better. The side quest Dungeons I found more of a challenge then the game ones.

I'm looking forward to some more DLC adventures.

Filled out the survey!
Missed more shady characters and the options to be either pure or corrupt all the way on all quests, instead of having quests push you into being one or the other.

And as the other guys are crying about. Pub game codes!

I haven't time for the survey now. I will complete it tonight for you. idea!

Filled survey out.

game but to short for my liking some pretty fun times and a little to easy lat boss would have preferred something with alot more of a challenge. thanks lionhead for the times tho

I'm probably the only one that liked the Retribution quest.

Core quests.. well I didn't really like any of them a hell of a lot, preferred just doing them and not thinking about it, you know, following the golden trail. Side quests however, were very enjoyable. The brightwood farm one was nice, both of em I must say, simple, but nice. And the Max and Sam quests were awesome. The family quests were really nice, but I didn't really feel any emotion to my family, because my tv has really bad sound and the screen is not able to show Fable 2 completely. I couldn't read any of the texts in the upper part of the screen and such. Favourite enemies by far the Hollow Men, since they reminded me of the undead in Fable 1, which I liked alot more than any enemy in any other game. Characters: Garth.

Nightmare Hollow

i don't think i am far enough into the game yet to do the survey.  the last side quest i did was pose for the statue.  i messed up the pose at the end when i missed the green bar.  the sculptor was dissappointed but finished the sculpture anyways.  i wonder if i could have gotten more renown if i hadn't messed up.  does anyone know?

@march15th: Yes you get more if you finish the pose right.  But you can always go back and re-pose for the statue.

Any chance on us getting to see the results of the quiz?

It's a shame i had to fill out average for most things. Over all the quests were all average (go kill this/Defend that/kill this on the way to that/etc). The monsters were well designed (the hobs are well done especially) but over all average in a fight. Only Great was chesty. And next time please make the last quest actually feel like the last quest (aka epic).

Nice idea with the survey, always to see the strengths and faults in the game.

Done it ;-)

Can i have a pub games code please ? thanks

Thanks for this chance for use to get these preferences to you in a usable manner! I agree that Reaver was a fantastic character, and hope to see more of him. After listening to his diaries, there is clearly more to this character than meets the eye...

Did the survey.  Glad to do it.  I think there is so much more that can be done with Albion.

Overall, I am very satisfied with the game.  Very entertaining, and continues to be so even after the main storyline is over.

Since we seem to be collecting general observations here...

- I was a little disappointed in the main quest line.  Imaginative, definitely, but I was hoping to have a little more thinking involved.  I seem to recall there being more puzzles in the original game as opposed to "go and fetch" tasks.  I agree with others that it didn't feel particularly "epic"

- The side quests were .  Chesty was inspired.  A series of quests where you sleep in that bed and you get new challenges over time would be awesome!

- The writing was excellent!   The descriptions of some of the items were really clever and funny.

- I noticed that if you play a female hero (yeah, I did... I admit it), your chances of finding a decent-looking guy to wed are slim indeed.  I mean, really...  the female NPCs have a load of fair-to- looking characters to choose from, but the NPC males are really rather lacking.

- On a similar note: I'm cool with the female hero having a more realistic bustline, but she's a HERO.  She should at least have some abs to show off.

- The side quests that had some recurring characters like Sam/Max, Barnum, etc., made the quests a little more fun because you got to be a little more involved in the NPCs and their "lives" (so to speak).  

- Having the bounty hunts and slave rescues level up with your character would be .

- The placements of the enemies in the various areas becomes seriously predictable (the Hobbes "ambush" when you enter Westcliff is now just a blip in the journey).  Be nice if they were more random... felt like the encounters were more random in the first game.

- The changes in the Trolls were , making the fight a little more challenging.

- The Archeologist quest, even though it was a "fetch" quest, did make you work a bit in trying to figure out where the clues were trying to lead you.  I liked that your dog would help you once you got in the general vicinity of the item.

- And can we get a dog back?  Come on.  That was the only dog in ALL of Albion?

I like that you ask about woodcutting, bar tending, and blacksmithing as if they were different. They are all the same, simple, boring mini-game. The same mini-game used to interact with villagers.

Also, do you feel ashamed when you see the list of enemy characters and realize how short it is? I think that the original Galaga arcade game had more variety in enemy characters.

The whole game suffers from a lack of variety and passion.

*quote* I've used SurveyMonkey.com because I liked the name.*un-quote*

That made me laugh hehe.

I liked any quest involving a banshee or a Troll cause at least those mobs gave some challenge. Balverine were the best in Fable 1 but in 2 really got nerved down. I liked them in the Chesty World tho there they looked more of a challenge  but maybe that was because of your own size in there.

done, may i have a gorgeous pub games code

The thought the core quests were fun but I would have liked more of them. They didn't feel as epic as the quests from the first. I liked doing alot of side quests that had humor to them. Like the one with the ghost who wants you to make his love fall in love with you and she ends up killing herself if you don't marry her.

Funny Stuff.

I loved the entire game in general. The one bit that draged on for me at least was the Spire (it really did feel like 10 years).

I loved all the enemies, especially the Troll! Fight that really made this game seem even more epic for me, especially when it pops out of the ground like that.

Filled it in. Some of the characters are very memorable. On to my third playthrough. If only I could get a code...

Which quests were the best? Do you mean the working ones or the broken ones??

I'd say my favorite was Hammer, Garth, Theresa, and the dog. All great npcs with interesting personalities and unique appearance and clothes. You can tell Lionhead worked hard on their quest npcs.

But as for all the other npcs, it looks like they took the same random generator concept as Sims 2 with the same results. Lots of ugly people with the same basic three hairstyles. Honestly, if the main characters has all those styles, why don't the npcs have them to?

The only memorable creatures were the Balverines (a pain as always to fight in groups. =D), the Trolls (love the new concept for killing a troll), and the Banshees. I LOVED the banshees. They were awesome looking, and I love how they whisper things to your character as you fight. That was just awesome.

As for quests, the main storyline was , but the only strong points to me where The Spire and Escaping the Spire. That had a much bigger effect on me then the rest of the story. The ending was WAY to easy. Come on...all you have to do is use a music box? Where's the epic, hard boss battles? Those spire shards are harder then Lucien. xD

I also think they should have fixed the game so you can finish quests without the dog. Otherwise, it leaves the final three choices pretty easy, as you need the dog if you want to finish quests so you're obvious choice is Love. Not that difficult of a struggle, there. <.<

My last suggestion would be that the Blind Date quest allows you the choice of dating Gile's son/daughter. Seems silly to not have that choice present if you can marry Lady Grey or marry Alex.

*crying for a pug games code* Filled it out.

Bloodstone Assault was a one!

..in the escape tunnel:
Reaver: "Watch this!"
*one shot, one kill*
POW POW POW POW POW

best scene in fable ^^.

The 3 heroes really added character to the game; they provided a memorable experience for me while playing fable 2.  I love rich historical detail in main characters and the land as well (I love the story behind Waithmarch and Reaver).  

I also like how fear was used this time around (Sleepy Hollow, Terry Porter's Farm, Warithmarch) it adds to the emotion of the game.  However, I would like to have the fear of death to be more evident for the main character and possibliy your dog and family.

All in all this was a GREAT and orignal game but there is still room for improvment.

Once Lionhead fixes the Bloodstone Reaver glitch and I can progress past 2/3 of the game, I'll let you know what quest was my favorite.  Until then, i'm stuck with no quests to do outside of bloodstone and a town where I can't do anything.

I would suggest stop putting out these blogs and get to fixing the fatal errors in the game.  

Nice. I wonder what Reaver would do if he encountered Chesty...

Nice survey but I was hoping to leave a bit more feedback on a few things. Guess that's what the forums are for, right? Either way, love the game and hope to see a bunch of DLC. I got the points LH... give me my dog armor!!

It was a survey, although I noticed a couple of quest descriptions missing there, names can be quite hard to help me remember a quest. As others have said, having a feedback section on the survey would have been , I could have put reasons why I rated some things.

Aside from the dog, I think Hammer is probably the only "great" character in the game. The amount of time you actually spend with her, and her constant rambling (Which I loved) really flesh her out as a character. She has her motivations and goals, so it's not just a "Hey, join me in my awesome quest!" "Yeah, okay!" sort of thing.
Garth and Reaver suffer from the unfortunate all-to-common RPG problem of a character just feeling kind of tacked on, and you never really develop any sort of connection to them. It would have been nice if you had a quest or two where you spent a decent amount of time with them. Hopefully that can be addressed in some future DLC.

Completed the survey.  I thought the main/core quests were the best ones, followed by the unique side quests (family related, Chesty, etc...) that didn't merely involve killing a bunch of bandits/hollow men/hobbes for the sake of killing them.  On the whole though, many of the quests felt rushed/underdeveloped.  I liked the Alex quest...I wish there had been more unique characters/quests to get a spouse, as it would give them more of a personality/story.  As someone else mentioned, I liked how fear was used in the quests and in the world in general, as it added more atmosphere and emotion.

As with the first game, I felt that in Fable 2 the main story and especially the characters were the best aspects.  The characters had a lot of depth and personality.  The main story left a lot of things unanswered, but I suppose nowadays, that's become the point of DLC (much to my dismay...).

...and of course, I have to ask: may I please have a code for pub games?

What ZTALX said except the COMPLETE opposite.
Thanks for the fix, Woody.

I really liked most of the quests and the environments, enemies and all the jokes in the game.  Made it very memorable.  I didn't really like some of the characters, lacked some depth, but the dog was nice.  Worst character was probably Lucien.

side quests really had nothing in it for me. i didnt do many of them

great way to bring back the fans to the game after al the other great releases
cant do the survey though since I dont have the game yet
or are there stuff from the first fable and TLC?

@availia: thanks for the info.

survey status... done. I have to agree with several fellows, the "bad guys" were too easy, the only ones who made the cut where the balverines, as they can be really tough to beat, and the trolls but when you get around those guys, its a piece of cake; the side quest where , they added a quite a bit, but the main story while great about the script it was too damn shorty, and lucien, i thought it was going to be even more hard and awesome than fable TLC, but no, great disapointment, and the final option of the game was a gag, obviusly you have to chose love if you want to get all the achievements, but, even with all that was a great game

Filled in the survey, too bad we couldnt say that we thought the game was too short and as soon as it felt like it was beginning it ended.

But you guys heard that enough I gues.

Nice survey, hopefully you will make some DLC expansion packs.

My honest opinion is that the start of the game was very powerful, but the end looses me. its not the quest as much as the ho hum job off you go. I just didn't feel the sense of accomplishment that I was looking for. I understand that we are going back in to the world after the fact so we cant go being a savior and dieing to save the world. but I never even felt avenged.

Hell by the end I was more upset with Rever then Lucian.

Im hoping that there will be some additional back story as to how you are a blood descendent of the heros, who killed your parents and why.

More meat, less emotes.

Filled out the survey, the game needs more people like Chesty

The side quests were fun, and i was liking the main quest until i finished it. way too short i though. too underdeveloped. When i fought the big shard at the end it was easy, and then i found out that it was the final battle. i was disappointed.

after i beat the game it doesnt seem as fun since i know there really isn't any story i can advance in, thats why i like long storylines. the last game i played before this was GTA IV. that game was at least 4 times as long a storyline.

not only that, but i'm sure the first fable was also much longer. I loved it when I got the Lost Chapters and i found out i had to fight the last guy twice. in fable 2 you don't fight him, you just shoot him off his stand (or Reaver does) and I didn't get the feel of accomplishment like i did in the first game.

Oh well, thats my opinion

the main story was but the side quest was felt like a deversion  to add gameplay wish they went kind of a story

gta4 wasnt all that great but just for an example all the quest had a little story every person you came past  ya there a few  that only 1-2 missions but that fine to have a few of those but not like 40 side quest of no story i rather had that time spent more on the story made it longer nd deeper

1) The opening quest is *great* the first time around, but for subsequent playthroughs it really is just a pain in the ass. The ability to skip it would be most welcome. I find this, more than anything, discourages replay. I don't want to go through it again and again and again.

2) Jobs -- they are tedious, and compared to trading wisely or renting out realestate, they pay very poorly.  I found them an annoying achievement to get rather than a fun diversion from slaughter. If not for achievements, I wouldn't have bothered past level 3 or 4 with any of them.

3) Blackmail/Bigamy Blackmail -- This was a great addition, but there are only two ways out that I could find.  What about snubbing the messenger (or torture!) and tracking down the blackmailer?  I want to tell him to mind his own business, personally. With the business end of my rifle.

4) The crucible revisited - this is GREAT but... like the original Fable, can't be replayed. Ok, It can. Sort of.  But if you get all perfect rounds, to gain the epic weapon, you'd better not do that again.  It locks up your character permanantly.  Fix that and you can change my opinion of this quest to GREAT. I love the arena. But being proficient at it is bad, apparently.

Mostly . Ending is a bit disappointing. I am not saying we need an epic boss fight, but an ending that's more impressionable, like something that's surprising, or thought provoking would be nice.

It would be interesting if you can let your fans know when the result of the survey is out

Mostly . Ending is a bit disappointing. I am not saying we need an epic boss fight, but an ending that's more impressionable, like something that's surprising, or thought provoking would be nice.

It would be interesting if you can let your fans know when the result of the survey is out

This is quite interesting indeed...I only wish that there would be a lot more quests like oblivion and more land to play around in. Meh, It felt like fable 1/lost chapters was longer and more enjoyable

The beginning really drew me in, and had a lot of fun to start, but this game kind of plays like the fish eating games where you grow larger as you eat more fish, it gets to a point where there's no fish bigger then you and it gets very boring.

Once you buy a sufficient amount of property you're set, and pump up raise dead a couple notches you have cannon fodder to make any battle easy. I wish there was more variety to the battles, the enemies could be taken out the same way over and over, no variety needed (I changed my attack pattern to level up not out of necessity). The variety of enemies were nice, but if they can all be taken out the same way they lose their distinct nature. I really love the banshee because of her dialogue more then anything else.

Once I left Oakfield everything felt like filler (core and side quests, all could be completed in 10-15 min spurts). There was no real fire to keep me playing. I played to see how it would finish up (and achievements). The end left me empty, no real sense of accomplishment. It was more like reading a book then playing a game, it's a book, but still a book.

There are a variety of characters, but none are fleshed out. I wish there were more side quests with them, maybe to see how they develop and what not. I like Reaver's quirky wit, and he has a great back story that you get right away doing his quests (really love how he finished the game for me as well lol), but nothing about Hammer (her being so mannish does take away some of my empathy for her) or Garth really stood out story wise.

I really loved Fable one, and wanted to really dive into Fable 2. The abbot quest took me out for almost a month until I felt like doing all the pub games for my second character.

Sorry for the wall of text,
game, just didn't entrance me

Survey was . very detailed.
wish i had a pub code so i could get all my expressions and such to finish off the game for achievements =P

Cheers,
Dom

I definitely enjoyed the game and think it was a great improvement over the first.

My biggest issues with the game were at times it really lacked life in the wilderness.  I spent a 30 minutes exploring the world trying to find things to do.  Would be great if more dynamic random things happened that you could interact with.

The second biggest issue is the map.  One of the worst map systems I've ever seen in a game.  It took me a long time to get a "feal" of the world.  Where things were in relation to each other.  It felt like a game bunch of connected random maps instead of a living world.  I don't understand the design decision to not have 1 massive map of the entire world you can move around and explore.  Currently just having a tiny map of the region you're in that you can't zoom in on was a big problem.

Lastly it would be nice to have a bit more ability to communicate with other people in the world other than gestures.  Finding a way to integrate a more detailed communication system like Mass Effect has and having it work with the gestures could add a lot of depth to the game.

This survey is nicely done Sam.
My highlights so far (haven't finished the game yet)  are The Crucible and my dog. What a shame my poor little dog can't come with me in those arenas...

Hi,I just want to note myself on the movie site to play then

i gave nearly all of them either great or . :X
can i also please have a pub code?
i pre ordered, but gamestop wouldn't give me one.

lilaznboi0325@aim.com
btw

alright did the survey, hope it helps you out there.

I did the survey but still need pub Games.....

Done and done. Great game.

Done, I must say, i wish you had done the trolls like fable 1.

I <3 CHESTY

A little disappointed to see that there wasn't an area for "What I would Like to See in DLC"

I must say I loved almost all the NPC's. Except lucien mostly because of the end of the game (or lack there of). I hated Reaver, which just means that Lionhead did their job. Hammer was probably the one I was least attached to, mostly cuz she just would not shut up! I have to agree the money system in this game is flawed and makes digging, most the silver chests, and some side missions pointless. Though it seems like either people are desprete for money or have tons of it. Most the quests were fine. I must say pretty much all the bad guys were way to easy. Once you learn headshots almost everything dies in one hit. Balverines, Bandits, Hobbes, (Spire) Guards. Near the end I almost wanted to switch to a crappy weapon just so I didn't kill everything in one hit/shot. Also you guys absolutely ruined the trolls. And seriously whose idea was it to make so you only fight ONE earth troll and ONE Swamp troll. I've never seen a bounty hunter mission involving a troll and I did my fair share of bounty hunter missions. Infact I did them just to get to fight trolls, but eventually gave up due to them never coming. I shouldn't have to kill an entire town worth of people just to fight a troll. I feel many, if not most parts of this game were a step back from Fable 1.

Survey Done


Reaver and Garth are Bada$$es

Although I commented, I had to agree. The ending left me feeling empty, with no feelings of accomplishment. And I to wanted to slap Reaver more then Lucien. Actually, Lucien was a very flat character all around. He had the backstory, but it just didn't come into play. And the gathering of three heroes to power the fourth and kill Lucien? Here I get this power, I get shot, and I run around in paradise for a bit before pulling a music box on the enemy? Hell, even shooting Lucien before Reaver could didn't make me feel like I'd gotten anywhere.

And I feel like...somewhere in the process...the girl gamers (though small, yes), were forgotten.

Environment Graphics - better then Fable
Character Graphics - aside from important npcs, worse then Fable
Story - at start, but ended worse then Fable's story (which kept strong till the end)
Plot Twist - none...cept the dog...but we all saw that coming.

And I miss my big battles. Come on. Everyone here can remember the White Balverine or the Hydra battles in Fable. But when I think of Fable II...all I can think of is the small battle with the Banshee. Fable II definately had less variety of creatures. *sigh*

Still game, but I hope to see a lot more in the future. ^^

Filled out the servey.

any chance of a pub games code man?
will_gum@hotmail.co.uk

cheers in advance!

I thought teh main quest was in general, but couldn't there have been a better way to orient us to Bowerstone then Theresa arriving late? I mean, I know that it was setting us up to have reasons to distrust her later, but it was really quite boring. the enemies were too weak - master hollow men were actually some of the strongest, more then balverines, which confuses me - but my favourites were hollow men and trolls. it was actually having to think while I killed a lump of intelligent rock. bahsnees were fun too, but relatively glitchy - I pushed one through a cave wall once, and had to use area effect spells to kill it.

as for characters...definitely chesty. funny and creepy at the same time, even without dialogue...very cool.

Can't give you an honest survey since I can not get into brightwoods at all anymore on my main quest save file due to your glitched up game.  I wish I could take this game back and get my money back from the store.  I mean if I bought a brand new car and found out that after driving it 150 miles that I could not roll the windows down, play music and drive outside my city limits, I would be filing a law suit.  If I bought a microwave and found out that I can not use the defrost setting I would take it back.  If I bought a pizza and found out that I only got toppings to cover 3/4 of the pizza I would be mad.  Come on this is horrible that you released this game in this condition.  Fix the bugs.

hello

I'm afraid I can't answer you, as I got stuck at the Abbot bug.  I started the game last night, saw a patch, and prayed I could continue my game..

Anyway, if it helps, here's some info:
When the Abbot bug hit me, they were talking before I entered the building, and I didn't know it was the abbot thing.  So I got stuck there.  Previously, when I loaded back near the temple he was in, my character would run very slow until I went into that temple and exited.  

Now, the slowdown has gone there, so I move normally... But the abbot, of course, is not yet talking to me so I can continue my game.  The other thing to tell you is that I'm getting a message at the top of the screen telling me I can move around furniture, and that's there unless another message (like info on a person you pressed L Trigger on) pops up.

Is there any way that these game stopping bugs can be fixed?  This one's pretty popular, if I understand.

Thanks.

I loved the arena. I really love the underground quests, and the crystal cave, and the Spire was great, also Lionhead Island, and all the other quests as well. I can't make up my mind, don't forget the child hood quest. I will have to play some more.

I really like the game, but can't fill out the survey yet. I'm on my second playtrough, because my first savegame won't load anymore... Hope you can give an update about how the patch is coming along and if you can fix broken saves!

I thought the game was amazing the only thing that really ticked me off was the character Reaver I like Stephen fry (at least I think it was him) He is a great actor and played the part of Reaver well had a John Cleese (faulty towers) attitude, but Reaver just generally got on my nerves it’s just his character.

Although on the other hand you have the kick a** Garth who is an amazing will user and the cool but slightly weird hammer who is basically a steroid freak lol

Well done Lion Head team can’t wait to hear what you have in stall for us on the 24th

Forgot to say the trolls and balverines were great but to be honest you should make more trolls appear because I dont know if it just me but I have only seen 1 troll after I completed the game and thats in the area.

I hate picking holes in a great game but the trolls alongside the balverines are my favourite and there should be more to fight as they are fairly tough with lots of XP.

Can you shut HAMMER up in the patch? While she talks and the captions are on screen, i can't sprint and everything slows down. Unfortunately she NEVER stops babbling which made me wanna kill her and that is not a nice thought now, is it?

BTW: Great idea to let us play Fable II with our Xboxlive-avatars. That is the big news on monday ain't it? If not: You got the idea from me, right here, for free;-)

I enjoyed the Crucible, thought the commentators where pretty amusing - although the rewards could do with a little upgrading.

Armour would be nice.  Might help me get rid of all of this gold =)

Pub Games code would also be nice .... ahem.

job with the surey,n fable 2 was a sick game,the core quest was well surprising with the ultimate weapon n the side quests had some strange outcomes,the creatures were pretty detailed but the non-quest related npcs were really really annoying.

I completed the survey!

I like the Balverines as long as they're not cutting me up.

I have little to complain about anything in the game actually, only two things kinda irked me:

The "ending".

Secondly. Hammer.

At first, I'll be honest and say I liked her. Her curiosity and everything about her when you first meet made her a welcomed companion. However, at the end of the monk quest when a monk enters that final chamber and says something is going on at the temple, she turns into some kind of angst filled comic book character.

The anger is well in its place, but some of her lines aren't. I thought they were cheesy and annoying. Or maybe she was always that way.

" Call me...Hammer."

"Now you know why they call me Hammer"

Everyone else is great though, I'll miss Barnum.

I love the game, but I'm afraid I'll have to wait until the patch comes before I complete the survey. I had to throw away around 20 hours of gameplay because of a bug... But I couldn't stand Hammer, by far the most irritating character in Albion.

Awsomeness! Surveys ftw!
But regarding the game in general it still feels incomplete.. For some reason..
The game was nicely composed but it ran abit short to be honest.
To the extent of that even Fable: The Lost Chapters feelt bigger in away.
Most of a let down was the / looks. Would be awsome to have looked like the avatar of the desktop background i have.. but i guess that was mayby the ide from the start.. but.. still.. basicly one of the reasons i bought the game was due to i was hyped over the choices of how you were supposed to customise your char or rather the built up hype of it before the rls... but.. no..
Game in general was fun tho.. most side quests were awsome some main quests were to.. just sad that the main quest feels shorter than the main quest in fable one feelt.. Have to dust that game of and compare..

But still an aok gaming experiance but with alot of bugs.. or something...
Its like playing a beta from time to time.. and i payed around 80£ for that.. ehum.

But dont get me wrong, i love the game and i can understand that we will see alot of overpriced DLC's in the future to sort of give us that extra content to make it feel more like a full game.. Like most devs out there sadly do nowdays. T_T

Took the survey.
Personally, I couldn't stand Reaver and wanted to be able to kill him.
I was surprised at a few things, for example on one particular quest your character was supposed to be fooled by someone (not in Bloodstone). The second time I played the game, I wasn't putting up with it and I shot the person ahead of time. I was surprised that the game had programming in it to handle that event rather then ignoring it. I was disappointed that I couldn't kill/sacrifice the monks. It was disappointing when you could stand there shooting them in the head and they would just say "I say!"

Reaver. Must. Die. Chesty. For. The. Win!

Survey is closed, apparently... oh well. I was actually going to ask how long it was to remain open, seeing how I haven't beaten the game in its entirety yet.

Man, survey already over?  Oh well, maybe next time.  I gotta say, I really like how you're interested in what us loyal minions think of your hard work.

The survey is open again. Minor glitch.

Maybe I should make another survey to see how this survey was...

It was a survey, Woody, except you used the quest and monster descriptions from development instead of from the final product.  "Find Charlie's son"?  What's that about?

Survey filled out!

Survey was pretty fun hopefully it'll give a insight to what we liked and didn't.

Still dishing out Pub Game Codes? *grins greedily*

Were can I take the survey and also were are the codes?

I also did not like the jobs that were in the game. Besides the assassin ones or others where you actually went out and did something, all you do in the jobs is press A over and over and over again, and in the right spot. They would have been more fun or challenging if maybe there was more to them than just the A. maybe moving to different spots, or different combinations of buttons.

I also feel that the side quests were there just to make more things for us to do. like trying to divert us from the short storyline.
The side quests also sort of disappointed me. They should have been built on more, like each sidequest having it's own storyline. Take the game Oblivion for example. in that game there were many, many sidequests. There were also a few big sidequests that had very long storylines, some almost as long as the main storyline. With those it took me forever to actually finish the storyline because there were so many things i could do.

I would also like to point out all the dungeons and most of the places where there was something to get or do. They were all almost the same, and were pretty easy. they were not all exactly the same, but basically you do the same thing in every single one.

I was very disappointed with how the game finally turned out. I had been literally counting down the days for 5 months. And i pretty much did everything in the game within a week, only playing for about 2 or 3 hours every other day.

I am saying all this because I have been wanting to, and i figured this was a blog to say it all on.

There are a few other things that disappoint me, but i thing i have criticized enough with this post and my last post.

i hope there will be an expansion at some point for the storyline. maybe something like The Lost Chapters was for the original game? only a donwload and not a seperate game?

just pondering...

ok, i cant help it, i need to say more.

First off, the cutscenes. I really liked the idea at first about how you could interact with them, or skip them by walking away or something like that, but later i really started to dislike it. I was starting to miss the fact that the camera would go in close to people, even my own character who i dont see at any scenes but the ones i cant interact with. and even though there was the ability to look at interesting thing with LT i still didn't feel any of the dramatic effects that the first game gave me.

Also i didn't like the enemies as much. I don't really know what to say about them, but they didn't feel the same, in a bad way, as they did in the first Fable game.

I also didn't like that you could just get quests and upgrade yourself from the pause screen. I know some people like it because they don't have to go somewhere to get the quest, but that made it more fun and believable i think, and made it not as easy, as in now i can upgrade myself while i am in the middle of a battle. that just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyway, now i'm going to shut up now, even though there is more i would like to say...

It's a long survey. I've lost my patience. Anyway, Fable II is a great game except the ending. Lucien is too week to beat off!

I have to please a pub game code please can you send me an email is by my luccaslive@hotmail.com

thanks

Balverines were ok. They did alot of damage, but were rather easy to kill seeing how they can't block, and they only dodge once before they die.

I wish some of the side quests had more characters and back stories to them. I liked the back stories on some of the quests like Lady Grey in Fable The Lost Chapters. I think side quests should all be of similar writing quality. Less of the random go here and kill random bandit Thag quests. Add story to the quests. Say you met the most beautiful girl in Albion, and she is really charming. She just wants to find a stellar guy. Right before you go out on your first date you find out Thag is her bad ex-boyfriend, and he steals her away from you and locks her up. You track Thag down and find him abusing her. You then kill the surrounding bandits and make your way to the climactic boss fight involving Thag. After killind Thag you release your girlfriend and the most shocking thing happens! A killer twist! She no longer wants to be you girlfriend. In fact, she's done with men entirely. She decides to try out girls and moves to lesbian, nudist, camp far away.

I think the greatest thing you could have done was making the clothing not effect armor. I'm very fickle, and change my outfit ALL the time. Cheers guys.

There, i've buttered you up, now i'll use my expression wheel and beg for a pub games code  

Trolls shud be able 2 move around mass higwaymen are a pain but buttonbashing to kill em all is easy needs more challenging enimies

I would very much like to please a code of the pub game my email is luccaslve@hotmail.com if any member can send me I would be very grateful

Survey is for devs on what to improve on in the future.  I liked the overall game, I was immersed.

HOWEVER

The total experience left me somewhat disatisfied as my personal game is 98% complete with no hopes of 100% unless a future patch addresses commonly known bugs.  ("Love Hurts", "Civilian Displacement"

My Fingers Are Crossed.

Fable 2 was alright, but honestly, a lot of it was very disappointing.

Keep trying.

Cheers

Fable 2 blew me away. Though i hated the fact on what happened to my sister on there. I hope to see her again in the expansion.

And i also hope i'd get a pub games code.

I thought fable 2 was great then again i havnt played fable 1 so idk about this lack of content u all keep saying...but one thing that does worry me was how easy it is to complete the game and well lack of quests/clothes weps and pretty much alot of things hopefully lionhead will add more...also add more big ass bosses like trolls but 10x harder... i found killing trolls was fun coz u had to plan u way through it...and mabye a dungeon like the cruicible where u gotta work as a team online to get throught this dungeon and beat big badass boss at the end

i liked most quests but they were all easy because all u have to do is follow the bread crumb trail and kill monsters on the way... If any content download comes, i hope you dont have to pay heaps of microsoft points if any at all. Pub game code plzzzz...

Just participated to the survey, and adding now some comments.
First of all, great game, I enjoyed it twice and encountered a single glitch (marital home). So except for the LCE problem(s), I'm a happy customer/gamer.
One of my few concerns' the fact that "" quests are more fun than the "" ones. I mean Sacrifice Minigame VS Donate Money... Is being supposed to be so boring? Second, I hated to watch a particularly appreciated side character being murdered (won't spoile, but as a clue it accured in a mansion reaching the end of the game) without been given the opportunity to at least avenge him. And third and last concern, the Crucible shouldn't be a core quest.

But, thanks for this great game (and please forgive the fact english isn't my first langage, errors should have slipped in my post)

completed the survey. additional comments: I really dislike that you need several things that you do not purchase with the standard edition for getting 1000 gamer points. For me, that is an absolute no-go. I also dislike the online multiplayer achievements....

Fable 2 was great, loved the first one, and this one thankfully exceeded expectations (from the first game)

More DLC for Fable 2 would be the best, and you guys outta consider a more deeper online component, alot of people enjoy trading useless stuff online!

i already commented on this but im here again asking for a pub games code. just want to make sure that i have a chance of getting one. thanks for everything.

the issue is so fun is that I do not like is that the temple of shadown taking this very Azhar and the rest, the coolest is having to go explore the world to pick up items ... please pub game code my email is luccaslive@hotmail.com

I filled out the survey. Could I have a Pub Games Code in return now?

I like the trolls, but they would be even better if you had to do some finishing move to them after you've hurt their sensors.

Please send me a Pub Games Code

My emails is skpmnr@gmail.com

Thanks a lot!

Did the survey, thanks for caring.

Completed the survey - there were a couple of quests I didn't come across the first time, perhaps I need to play another character...

Survey Filled Out.....Its Nice =D

hola? alguien habla español?

I absoulutley LOVED Fable 1 and love Fable 2 but the story was WAY WAY WAY to short! I was dissapointed when i completed it because i felt i was only just getting into the game! Fable 1's story was MUCH better Fable 3 to have a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH longer storyline : (  !! i did notice though on my 4th playthrough creatures became harder espeisally the great shard, wierd! Completed servey.

Completed the survey.. I really think the core quests should have been longer, but all the side quests made up for that

Oh well.

Cheers, Lionhead

Couple of things I didn't like about the side quests (Archaelogist in particular) was the constant running back and forth to get a quest update:
Get artifact
Go back to Belle (I think that's what her name was)
Get another artifact
Back to Belle
Artifact
Belle

And so on. If it  was used to lengthen the quest than I guess it worked, but it's not the way it should be done. Annoying the player isn't the greatest of ideas, considering the reward for all the running around. Try increasing the difficulty it takes to get the artifact (Have a temple or something with traps and minigames to unlock the chest) or increasing the number of artifacts. Just an idea.

Also, those quests which you can never complete (Donating to the light, Crucibe) are annoying. It distacts from the feeling of having done everything when you remember the game's still telling you there's a quest which you've technically finished but haven't.

pfft... brightwood tower was ...
a perfect world was well made, and the first time around i enjoyed the sureal feel around it...

everything else was boring, predictable, and each with incredibly similar goals.
and as for the core quest... WAY TOO SHORT, and not enough happens.

That core quest is not even a blip in albions history. and theres not even a single twist... so dull...

filled in the survey can i get a fable 2 pub games code? thanks <3

Nice survey.
I personally loved this game. Sure there weren't as many core quests as I'd like, but that didn't make it any less fun to play.
Could I possibly get a pub games code? It's kinda hard getting 1000/1000 without it

Game was great> The dog is Genius!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't been able to make myself complete the game with loosing my dog. It would have been nice to be able to get 1000/1000 gamer points without having to buy Pub games, for those that didn't Pre buy or didn't receive the code. Maybe once I get all other achievements I will finish the game loosing my dog, just can't make myself do it. The chests towards the end that are really hard to get an all it has is cash is kind of lame. Cash by that point is a non-issue since trading can earn you more than enough money to do anything you need. I would have rather have seen a gag gift rather than money (maybe some chicken feed for the poor chickens that we have all abused for so long now). Thanks for a fantastic game.

Hey, is there any chance us forum-goers will get a chance to see the survay results?

dog and balvurines ftw!

A very enjoyable game, but I liked F1 more.

Never played the first, but I would occasionally look over my roommates shoulder while he was.

I've only just started in the last couple days but I find it to be great. Questing is so far, seems to me that there are a lot of side things that you can do but seem to be shallow, like marriage.

I'll save my survey taking for after I finish, but so far I give the game 6 and a half thumbs up, or 8.5 Richard Nixon's, which of course is the standard galactic unit of measurement.

     The main story line was vivd, but short... also the end of the game was just RANK. Like seriously, the ending was horrid. The choice part is awsome but the fact that you have to just shoot Lucien once is BAD (you dont even have to shoot him actually...Reaver will take a stand if you don't).

     The side quests were ok. Obviously they shouldn't be amazing though or it would take away from the epicness of the main story line.

     The characters were the best part of the game to me. They really did make the game. Your faitfull companion (the dog) was an excellent idea. The art work and lighting effects were great. My personal favourite was the banshee's (they looked ominous and had a black ora- intimidating and scary)

p.s.- Could I have a Fable II Pub Games code please? One can not achieve a perfect gamerscore in the game without that arcade game.

p.s.s.- Isn't there a microsoft rule that you have to be able to get 1000/1000 on a retail game without having to purchase any other content?

Like the commenter above me I would also like it if I could receive a Free Pub Games code, pretty please

Just finished the survey. Any chance of a code?

I thought the game was pretty , but there were a few this that irked me, like that unblockable multi-swiping attack that the Balvarines do, the huge glitch in "The Rescue" (where your kid becomes unresponsive outside the Hobbe Cave and you cant finish the quest),  and eaver.  My god he was a terrible character heh.

Also, more save options and a better end level would have been nice.

It's still a game though

I have to agree with Ztalx in that Reaver and Garth weren't developed enough. Reaver was so interesting, but his appearance was extremely limited. Hammer ended up being the only main character I actually cared about. I also liked Barnum throughout the game. His death was a love/hate thing because I really loved him, but his death was in that it brought out a lot of emotion ( something the rest of the game lacked.)

It would have been interesting to see some of the other people met during childhood later in the game. How did the bully turn out? The drunk? The couple?

Also, the family feature lacks depth. Something has to be done to actually create feeling for them. Perhaps greater customization next time around such as clothing and hairstyle.

Finally, the money system needs adjustments. My suggestion is that you change prices, and you make the income for every 5 minutes of time WHILE PLAYING THE GAME.

Overall I enjoyed the game, though. Played through 3 times already.

For the most part I enjoyed this game, and am still enjoying it from time to time, but there are several major issues that have to be considered carefully.  

Let us start at the end.  The final "battle"... (I won't spoil it for those of you that haven't gotten there yet.)  Anyone that has ever watched a movie knows that last thing you experience will be the feeling you are left with when you walk out of the theater or turn off the DVD player.  Is this really what Lionhead meant to leave us with?  After all that talk about the emotion they wanted to convey to the gamers, they leave so much to desire.  
The solution is obvious here, I know Lionhead can think of something a bit more compelling.  

Another concern of mine is the rewards/treasures.  One cannot help but feel cheated upon completion of the archaeologist quests, (just as one huge example.)  Also, necklaces DO NOT belong in treasure chest unless they are accompanied by other valuable items, especially if you have an entire cave or dungeon dedicated to the chest.  (It really takes the excitement out of finding chests.)
Perhaps they could allow access to new dungeons or small villages upon completion of certain side quests, ESPECIALLY the archaeologist quest!!!  

Third on my list is the lack of interaction your 'hero' has with the environment.  In Fable 1 your hero tips back a bottle when he drinks.  This is a simple but effective means of making the player feel a bit more in-the-moment and connected to the character.  No hot key, thus forcing you to constantly pull up your expression wheel, which takes you out of the moment.  The expression wheel is , but it should be accompanied by the ability to assign them to your hot key.  It is vital to any compelling story that you not take your audience out of the moment.  This is also done by forcing you to go to your menu to read books to gain expressions.  I think the mere act of acquiring the book should be enough.  Simple things like being able to sit in a chair, pet your dog, or tip back a bottle when you drink, can only help in making this game more engaging.  I could go on about this but I think I have already made a valid point here.  

Clothing...  I am well aware that Lionhead took steps to ensure that nobody would favor one type of clothing over another due to the armor rating, and that is a great first step.  In doing so they automatically place all the emphasis on the design of the clothing.  (to be fair i will leave my biased opinion of their designs out of this comment.)   I am glad that the clothes can be dyed, that is the right direction to go in.  That we can all agree on, but the severely limited number of outfits came as a huge shock to me, especially given this new emphasis on character customization.  A suggestion for later installments: add an 'accessories' category, one that includes things like capes, cloaks, belts, weapon holsters, etc., to give our hero a more custom or original feel, that's what most gamers want.

Finally I want to cover a few gameplay issues that can make or break a game.  

Character obstacles.  One cannot help but notice... the dog gets in the way (as well as the NPCs.)  There are few things more annoying when wandering the narrow passageways of a cave, than your dog becoming an obstacle.  I found myself cursing my dog, which nullifies caring about him.  I would have preferred being able to walk through him, or easily nudge him out of the way.  The same goes with crowds of uninvited villagers blocking the stairs to your own house.  It's annoying, bottom line.  

No stealth.  I understand, that in Fable 1, sneaking was really only for one mission.  Fair enough.  With this in mind though, this could have been incorporated into Fable 2 beautifully.  Who reading this doesn't agree that it would be absolutely fantastic to have a stealth kill?  I also enjoyed picking locks and stealing items from the shelves.  Again, it was a great way to get you more involved in the world of Fable.  I find I do not feel as connected to the Albion of Fable 2 as I was to the original.  Despite their beautiful design, the regions of Fable 2 feel somewhat empty, or lacking.  I feel a distinct disconnection from my character and I feel like I am a stranger in Albion.  Subtle details make all the difference.  

I could go on and on about how to improve this game, but then again so can many of us.  I Love this game, it has great potential, but lets not forget the simple things that made Fable 1 such a success.  Keep the criticism constructive and we might actually be of some use to Lionhead.  It's easy to gripe about the glitches and all the hype, but perhaps we should give some careful thought to the potential of this innovative and unique game.  Though a bit disappointed, I have not given up hope for a better Fable.              

I agree that there should have been more boss creatures.  The bounty hunter/community service quests should be more varied as well. They were way too easy and a pain because they're always days away from whoever gave the quest. More clothing types too, I'm still mad there wasn't any more to the assassin coat. Sure there's lots of clothing but most of it I'll never even use, like the pauper
outfit or the ranger outfit because it makes my character look fat. Speaking of wich, why does increasing physique and toughness make me look fatter more than mucular? Not so bad on male characters but on female characters it looks like Olga the Austrian bodybuilder (no offense). I don't want my female character to look like Hammer but the only way is to never increase strength stats. Anyway it's still an awesome game and I'm on my third run through straight. Filled out the questionaire too. Would be nice to be able to play Pub Games though... (hint hint)

Just filled in the survey.

Hi,
can I have a pub game code pleaaaassssssseeeeeeee

Filled in most of the survey

I thought that ALL of the quests were , some were just more fleshed out than others. I have to admit though, Peter really did get me with that damn dog. I love him so much.
Also, some of the enemy design revamps worked out , others not so much.
We really dont need more huge bugs to fight off as a first enemy. There should be something a little more original.
Anyways, took the survey.
Great game, see you all in Albion!

(A pub-games code would be nice <.<
Cheers!
~SpawnOfJack

some elements of the game were amusing, but mostly, the game bored me to tears, it was all basic fetch or kill this missions, with absolutely no changes. the characters were mostly boring, (save Hammer and Reaver) and the enemies were just...bland, we have seen them all before, except banshees.

there is no challenge in this game, no emotion, nothing.

Personally, I'm much happier that I traded it in for fallout 3, a game with REAL choices to make, and REAL repurcussions for those choices, oh, and it's TRUE sand box.

Fable 2 is nothing but a cow pie painted a pretty color, and then lied about in order to sell it.

I like the update to the fighting system, but the core and side quests were all very average if not downright boring.  Also, I thought the glowing trail was more annoying than anything.  It made the game one long "follow the dotted line" event where you didn't have to really think about anything.  Fortunately you can turn it off.

Overall, I liked some of the game play elements, that being how the player interacts with the world (though I would've liked it if you could REALLY go anywhere that you could see...), but I was thoroughly disappointed by the quests, jobs, and consequences of your actions.  I slaughtered 104 unarmed civilians and my fine was a measly 2000 gold or so.  Of course I opted for the community service which was even more ridiculous: kill a troll.

Talk about a slap on the wrist.

It would've been interesting if, on being caught by the guards, you were sentenced to death or something.  I mean hell, I just buzz-sawed through over 100 people!  Crazy!

I think Fable II is an interesting use of the current level of gaming tech (though a more stable release would've been nice... it took me over a week to figure out how to make my XBox play the game!) but more imagination would've been nice.  Too much effort was spent on making it look nice (and it did like nice--when it worked) and not enough energy was invested in telling the story in a way that made the player care about it.  I enjoyed the first Fable immensely and was ready to enjoy the second.  Too bad it didn't work out that way.

great survey so far!

i would love to have a german version of that. may i can help out and translate it?!

best wishes! jnin

oh that your moderating the comments. when ur intrested in a german version just write a short note to illdividual@countzeero.eu or either a xbl msg to countzeero. ;] dont approve this one. x] have a one and best wishes to your team.

more trolls ftw!

Most of what I thought of has already been said. I wish there had been more unique characters/quests to get a spouse, especially since I got glitched out of my undead zombie wife. :/

Jobs, weren’t that great… my only real complaint was that they all were basically the same.

“Blackmail/Bigamy Blackmail -- This was a great addition, but there are only two ways out that I could find.  What about snubbing the messenger (or torture!) and tracking down the blackmailer?  I want to tell him to mind his own business, personally. With the business end of my rifle.”

^ My sentiments exactly, except with me it was the business end of my cutlass.

And in regards to the enemies, Balverines were pretty weak, much easier than the first game. Slash-slash-slash, Balverine jumps off screen, charge and release a flourish behind you  (always behind you)= Dead Balverine

Done! Thanks, lionhead!

Loved most of the game content, thought some quests , characters and creatures were a little generic, but OMG what a great game, thanks Lionhead, and Mr Moleneux thanks for getting it right this time. (Except co-op, bought an extra xbox and a second copy of the game, not been able to spend more than a few minutes at a time in co-op without it being entirely frustrating)

been waiting for that BIG news all morning. whens it going to ge announced? i need to know what is is. its like a sickness. and knowing is the cure.

I LOVE the balverines. Yes, they might be werewolves with another name, but they're awesome! And the graveyard manor quest was one of the better ones.

so where's this "really big announcment"? it is now 4:05pm in england, and there is no reallb big announcment

Most concerned

Me needy big news... It is almost noon in midwest USA, and I haven't heard anything

I want/need to know! My life runs on Fable... Need... News... Now...

Where is the Survey Link?

The Abbots Quest is my favorite!  Its SO lifelike cause he just stands there ignoring me like a real abbot would lol!  I just take his body language to mean 'Explore Oakvale some more cause I'm just not ready to talk to you yet!'  And we laugh and laugh haha!

Sometimes I have to wonder that, it is a little strange how the people of Oakvale never change or never say anything new...  Its like the town is stuck in some sort of weird time shift or something.  All the same people saying the same things all the time, and that Abbot.  Boy does he know how to give the cold shoulder...  I don't know, it feels...  you're going to think I'm crazy but... it feels sort of like I'm in  purgatory or something...  Like I'm being punished by the Fable 2 gods who say 'NO YOU MUST NEVER LEAVE OAKVALE AGAIN!!!!  SUFFER TRANSGRESSOR!!!!!'  

Ha, its foolish I know lol!  Oh well, back to circling Oakvale for the hundredth time hehehehe !

I think it's meant to say "the survey is now closed" instead of "not closed".

I think they shouldve kept armor like plate and chainmail and allowed you to get the Sword of Aeons somehow (or at least some sort of really nice, fast, strong, HUGE weapon like it). The core quests need to be longer and have more to it because it's like go there, or get this, or kill this. There should definetely be more side quests. The Demon door and the 50 key chest in Fairfax Castle need to hold something better than just 50,000 gold because you had to pay more than a million for the castle just to get to the chest, seems like a waste of time for me. Plus the enemies need to be a LOT harder, I can kill pretty much anything without even gettin hurt... including trolls. I also have collected all the legendary weapons in the game TWICE without buyin them from other players online. It would also be better if there was more of a connection with the first Fable. This game does have a lot of potential, though.

gah why didnt i read this sooner