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Fable II Title Update release and Tales of Albion

Published Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:51 PM by Sam

Today there was a Title Update (aka patch) for Fable II, fixing the issues that were reported on our forums and that we could reproduce. Below is a list I've mentioned earlier, I'll try and get additional information regarding other fixes and report those when I find out.

There has also been an update to Tales of Albion with the addition of Knothole Island. You can now find it on the Albion map in Today's Travels. 

- The Ritual/Monk’s Quest – Fixed the issue with the Abbott becoming unresponsive if you leave Oakfield before he finishes talking. This will fix the problem if you’ve already hit it, too.

- Rescuing Charlie/Rescue My Baby – after rescuing Charlie, you can now able to interact with objects. Will fix saves made when this bug was active.

- Guild Cave chest – resolves any issues with previously inability to retrieve items unlocked from Limited Collector’s Edition, website or Chicken Kickin’ game. If you’ve already hit this bug you should now get your items. If you’ve already hit this bug you should now get your items.

- The Spire (Pt2) – no more issues with ship captain being unresponsive. This will fix saves with this bug active however in order to free the captain you must go to Wescliff, leave the region and then return to it. 

- The Hero of Skill (Pirate King) – you’ll no longer get stuck during Hero of Skill quest (Bloodstone). Should prevent the problem and fix if saved in a broken state, in some cases it is necessary to go to reavers mansion and allow his cutscene to play out in order to free up the hero.

- T.O.B.Y./Trouble In Bloodstone – you’ll no longer get stuck during T.O.B.Y. quests (Bloodstone). This problems manifested when a player hit one of the pirate king bugs above and so these may be remedied as above in cases where a save was made in this state – i.e. by returning to Reaver and allowing his cutscene to finish. In some cases this will not work.

- Your child - will no longer be chosen as an assassination target. This will clear the assassination quest if it was saved with your child as the target. 

- Furniture Shop in Albion (Bowerstone) will now always have something for sale, it will fix cases were a save has been made in this state.

- Additional unspecified fixes

   

Comments

 

Shirker said:

Great, although I never experienced any of these bugs, I'm happy for those who's problems should be fixed now Smily [:)]
January 10, 2009 10:05 AM
 

skykoe said:

Thanks Sam and thanks Lionhead!
But still i'd really preferred it if I could just kill my child instead of not getting the target anymore Smily [:)]
January 10, 2009 10:07 AM
 

NarkDaVark said:

G o o d [Good] job on fixing the bugs =D
January 10, 2009 10:09 AM
 

lisouhime said:

Thank you Big Smile [:D]
January 10, 2009 10:24 AM
 

Shomu said:

im kinda confused were the knothole tales are. any help?
January 10, 2009 10:24 AM
 

Herintag said:

OMG Smily [:)] THANKS!
January 10, 2009 10:27 AM
 

davidtobin100 said:

Thank you! Woo hoo! Back to playing way too much Fable 2 for the next month or so.
January 10, 2009 10:41 AM
 

AntiAimer said:

Woot, woot, thanks alot.
January 10, 2009 10:55 AM
 

TheRealDarkhosis said:

Does this patch fix the love hurts quest?  I'm stuck at the part where you give the gravekeeper guy the head in the basement of the cemetary mansion.  
January 10, 2009 10:56 AM
 

dgabourel said:

Thats very G o o d [Good] News, Glad to see you guys hard at work as usual! Smily [:)]

Also I give up on ever getting the codes I should have gotten since I paid for them months ago. I'll just cut that as a loss. Can't always get what you want in life, even when you paid for it, as proven here.

Thanks Lionhead for at least fixing the game and not leaving your fans stranded.Smily [:)]
January 10, 2009 11:22 AM
 

Shisou said:

I love you.
January 10, 2009 11:52 AM
 

kjtooke said:

Has not fixed the missing spouse problem, so still cannot complete 'Retribution'.
January 10, 2009 12:12 PM
 

fablepower said:

ShisouSad [:(]
I've never experienced any bugs on Hero Of Skill.
I feel sorry for idiots who have bashed you even though you've made a brilliant game.
January 10, 2009 12:17 PM
 

dgabourel said:

fablepower-

Idiots? so if your game is bugged, that means your an idiot?

fablepower, you have got to be a very young or just STUPID. If your young, I can understand dumb comments, not that adults don't make stupid comments as well but your comment put a smile on my face, lol. Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

But anyways...

kjtooke- I think that update will be in the Jan 13th update!! (Hopefully)
January 10, 2009 12:30 PM
 

SupaSlick said:

Thank you for the patch - but the captain is still unresponsive, not to mention the fact that all the people are now motionless, silent, and I cannot interact with anyone.  Is there another patch coming out that is finally supposed to fix this? I have never played a console game with this many bugs in my life.
January 10, 2009 12:31 PM
 

ElKlinku said:

I'm eager to make my fable 2 BUG PROOF!! Smily [:)]
January 10, 2009 12:45 PM
 

Riaran said:

Thanks for the patch! Now I don't have to worry about as many glitches.
January 10, 2009 12:47 PM
 

Sir_Future said:

G o o d [Good] that you've released this before the 13th, there was no reason to wait with a free patch.


Not that I needed it, never encountered any bug in my entire game.
January 10, 2009 1:24 PM
 

Z0C said:

i dont know, but i've gotten pretty far in the game ( altho not finished) and i haven't ran into any bugs,  
great game lionhead
January 10, 2009 1:32 PM
 

Garrett_150 said:

sweet
January 10, 2009 1:33 PM
 

CTOM said:

Nice work lionhead!
January 10, 2009 1:34 PM
 

Garrett_150 said:

sorry for double post, just a little connection issue
January 10, 2009 1:39 PM
 

IrishMorn said:

That's cool, too bad they didn't go ahead and release Knothole Island today.  They would've made more, it being a weekend and all.  I'm also getting a little excited about playing it.
January 10, 2009 1:59 PM
 

oldDj said:

Can't wait to see what the patch fixes.  I haven't played Fable2 in 5 days now.  Feels like eternity.

Thank You again Lionhead for listening to your fanbase.
January 10, 2009 2:24 PM
 

Master_Bandit said:

Im still getting stucked by the TOBY quest Sad [:(]
I done like 2 objectives and then stopped. After i camed back from the spire he still says i need to collect the pie, but the trail leads me to him anyway, even that i dont got that peace of pie he needs..

But man, im glad that the chest in the guild cave is fixedBig Smile [:D] finnaly i can get that shitty book that gives me feign attack.
January 10, 2009 2:31 PM
 

opivyskaguy said:

It's nice to see issues are being addressed, but does this apply to old game saves or only new games?

I've just tried my game out, and I still have issues. Granted none of the bugs I have are listed in the patch. For example, I can't even start the TOBY quest, the guy just stands and stares at me.. Also The Rescue is still glitched with my wife standing out front of our house in Old Bowerstone stuck and unresponsive, with my child (who is supposed to be missing) running around.

January 10, 2009 3:11 PM
 

JayLJohnston said:

Thank you so much.  I eagerly look forward to putting some time in with Fable now!!
January 10, 2009 3:14 PM
 

phillipsmn said:

Great!

Unfortunately, I'm still having major issues in Oakfield. I am almost 100% certain that it is due to the sculptor being unresponsive. I still only get the dialog with an "A" button that doesn't do anything. I can't run, I can't draw a weapon...please help me!
January 10, 2009 3:16 PM
 

eddiea said:

So does this mean that we can open the Guild Chest more than once?
i.e. if we've already opened it to get the LE Content, we can open it to get the Hero's Tale Items?
January 10, 2009 4:03 PM
 

eddiea said:

So does this mean that we can open the Guild Chest more than once?
i.e. if we've already opened it to get the LE Content, we can open it to get the Hero's Tale Items?
January 10, 2009 4:03 PM
 

Gonorrhea92 said:

Nice, and only couple of days to Knothole Island Big Smile [:D]
January 10, 2009 4:05 PM
 

D34THB34ST said:

I haven't came across any of these, but I came across a strange glitch (if you could even call it that) today during the "Treasure Island of DOOM" Quest. It's my second time doing it, but as I entered the first room with the ghost pirates the gate opened before I even killed the final pirate... who was unresponsive and stuck in a table. After that I got on the ship, my objectives told me I had to defeat the pirates on the ship and yet they didn't spawn. Some crazy stuff I tell you.
January 10, 2009 4:39 PM
 

snip3rssin said:

cool, but i never had any of these problems.
January 10, 2009 4:46 PM
 

HarveyDanger said:

FINALLY
January 10, 2009 4:58 PM
 

jason4082 said:

great but My game still freezes when loading with the Black Screen of Death appearing...thanks for nothing on all the hard work and this one of the major issues that people were having problems with!!!
January 10, 2009 5:03 PM
 

animatetrunks said:

my game still freezes Sad [:(] not very happy because i can't play more than 5-10 minutes since september when the game was launch
January 10, 2009 5:11 PM
 

fred425 said:

Is any one else having a problem with the crusable i finishe it and opend the chest i didnt git any thing from the chest it brought me out side and i cant move.
January 10, 2009 5:19 PM
 

Jacquestrap said:

Can I have a code please?
January 10, 2009 6:04 PM
 

dgabourel said:

Wait, Quick Question.

This is not the update that is supposed to be released on the 13th right (not including the DLC)?

I hope not because I just downloaded it and I'm having the same issues. a lot of bugs have not been fixed still. I'm not trying to jump the gun, I just want to be sure this is not the update I've been waiting for.

Thanks. I doubt anyone at Lionhead will ever respond but just want to check.
January 10, 2009 6:50 PM
 

anbuneji said:

Would my runaway to be wife Lady Grey show up again in the graveyard with this patch?
January 10, 2009 6:59 PM
 

Seddrick said:

The freezes are still there.What was the patch for anyway??
January 10, 2009 7:08 PM
 

Bigolyt said:

Finally time to dust off the game. I might've forgotten how to play its been so long. None the less, thanks.
January 10, 2009 7:29 PM
 

dambach said:

What about the invert y-axis not inverting when aiming ranged weapons?  Did that get fixed?
January 10, 2009 7:36 PM
 

moonfever said:

Thanks Sam, will have to download it now.
January 10, 2009 7:46 PM
 

Lassedrengen said:

I just started playing Fable 2 and experienced the Abbot problem today? I had to restart my game. So in my case it isn't patched. G o o d [Good] fun.
January 10, 2009 7:50 PM
 

xXombie said:

I downloaded the patch and I still can't do the T.O.B.Y. quest
January 10, 2009 9:15 PM
 

Kehdar said:

Can I have a code for pub games, please? I would love to get the "The Completionist" achievement
January 10, 2009 9:33 PM
 

twelthdoctor said:

Anything on disappearing spouses?
January 10, 2009 10:18 PM
 

LordSoupington said:

So, after reading through these comments, it seems that not only have Lionhead done a job they should have done BEFORE launch, they haven't done it properly. G o o d [Good] going, once again.
January 10, 2009 10:40 PM
 

KENZEDD said:

Ah, that's brilliant, thank you, Sam. I know it's the whole team who works on everything, but a lot of the time it feels like you're the only one who cares what any of the fans have to say.
But I do think the unspecified fixes should be listed, so we can understand what has been fixed more exactly.
January 10, 2009 11:39 PM
 

TDIX said:

Finally.. And to think i thought all the developers were a bunch of dickless emotionless assholes. o wait, I STILL DO.

If this fix doesnt fix my hero of will game breaking glitch and i have to start over for the 3rd time i will probably kill someone. Most likely you Sam, yes, you Sam.
January 10, 2009 11:40 PM
 

xxreaper666 said:

Thanks Sam bro.
January 10, 2009 11:45 PM
 

CRAZYOTAKU said:

My game works!!! -Celebrates-
January 10, 2009 11:47 PM
 

TDIX said:

Nope. It froze once again right after the autosave!!!!
*** YOU for not even having the decency to properly fix a game which was released with oh so many flaws.
Not that i really expected as much.
I swear il NEVER buy a lionhead product again!!
January 10, 2009 11:48 PM
 

gallomoon said:

G o o d [Good] patch never experienced the problems myself as ijust got the collectors edition yesterday am loving it also a pub games code would be a cool addition to an awesome game.
January 11, 2009 12:35 AM
 

TwinKill91 said:

WOW. So you didn't actually fix the unresponsive captain Raynards, as some of us are STILL having problems with it...and he's unresponsive for part 1 for some people like myself! I can't even start the quest still, I waited this long. I still can't get past this part and I'm not starting a new game, as I killed so much time waiting and advancing. I have over 5.6 mil gold im 100% pure,100% G o o d [Good], and have over 16,000 renown from doing repeatable quests. I'm returning the game, and the count for people I convinced not to buy the game in total has reached 27 people (it started off with 4 of my friends where I had them see with their own eyes the disgusting glitches, and they spread the news).

Thank you Lionhead for this bullshit, and for waiting this long to release the patch JUST before your 800 Microsoft-point DLC comes out. VERY clever, it's all a marketing scheme in the end.
January 11, 2009 1:05 AM
 

JimiJam said:

Does this patch fix the exclamation mark on clothes menu bug??

Could you give me a Pub Games code, please?

Thanks in advance.
January 11, 2009 1:06 AM
 

SecretMuse said:

Well I finally managed to get my feign attack book, but the other problems are still there. When are they going to fix the spouse/kids glitch?
January 11, 2009 2:04 AM
 

DarkerFirestar said:

Thanks for the fixes LH, It always nice to get a community response. Other people  should bear in mind that there's plenty of games out there that are still unpatched and some even completely broken still, even 4 years after release.

Great game, and awesome work.!!!
January 11, 2009 3:06 AM
 

RowanBlackly said:

after get the patch i have seen more freezing, is this happening to anyone else?
January 11, 2009 5:13 AM
 

Guesar said:

That's why i lost 16000 golds yesterday morning after patch ! Sad [:(]((
The day before yesterday i have 16516 golds in my pocket, i save the game, yesterday 0 gold and go up to 516 golds 2 seconds after start...
January 11, 2009 6:42 AM
 

selden0072old2pwn said:

I really hope that this is not the Jan. 13th patch, because you assholes have not fixed the brightwoods blind date black screen of death game ending glitch.  I paid for a game and can not even enter that section of the game.  That are is about an eighth of the game and I can not play it.  If this is the patch that was supposed to fix the problems I guess I will be mailing my game to your studios with a request for my money back since Local retailers have stopped taking this glitch infested game back.
January 11, 2009 8:07 AM
 

Jake9999 said:

Spire/captain bug is still there....not fixed at all.........
January 11, 2009 8:25 AM
 

BlackVelvetopia said:

I am also stuck on the Love hurts quest, and I'm also woundering if the special adition people will get any new stuff...
January 11, 2009 11:22 AM
 

TwinKill91 said:

As posted by LordSoupington:

So, after reading through these comments, it seems that not only have Lionhead done a job they should have done BEFORE launch, they haven't done it properly. G o o d G o o d [Good] going, once again.

EXACTLY.

What a clever marketing scheme releasing the patch that should have been released a long time ago right around the DLC date. To avoid doing them on the SAME exact day, they did it three days prior. Woop dee do! Shows how much the consumers REALLY mean to Lionhead.
January 11, 2009 11:47 AM
 

Iglock said:

Well done Lionhead team! Can't wait for Knothole Island now! Big Smile [:D]
January 11, 2009 12:10 PM
 

redstripe333 said:

Wow this patch sucked. This piece of crap game still freezes on me. Can I have my $60 back lionhead so I can buy a real game?
January 11, 2009 12:22 PM
 

Submit said:

I find that playing with subtitles on, causes alot of freezing/ lag, So i do not play with that on, and i've never had a problem/glitch, so try playing with it off? I tried it once on, and i experienced freezing, but never before that, turned it off, and never had another problem..
January 11, 2009 12:56 PM
 

acolon said:

Well .. I would thank you properly for the patch release, however, since I still CANT load my game up do to the back screen, I guess its safe to say this game is going back EB for a trade in. So basically, thanks for nothing ....
January 11, 2009 12:57 PM
 

RowanBlackly said:

I'm a huge fan of the 1st fable and even lost chapter. i hoped for so much from this game and you didn't let me down with story line or even game play, when i chould play a side quest. now this patch was to fix all the problems i understand computer programing takes alittle time but, come on lionhead, we fans came to you guys becuse we loved the way you told a story or showed us a new idea for a game. from one fan please fix the game...
January 11, 2009 1:13 PM
 

moonfever said:

Thanks everyone, my game is playing better now, and there's furniture.
January 11, 2009 3:06 PM
 

Azazael13 said:

I had to redo the chicken kicking game to be able to get into the chest, but when I did I got all my LE items, and the remaining other items that I needed.  I can finally start playing again Smily [:)]
January 11, 2009 3:10 PM
 

jrod1776 said:

I still cannot read the text at the very top of the screen, very disappointing.

I have a 62" 1080i Samsung that is about 3 years old.  No reason I should be experiencing these issues.

Is this going to get worked on or did I waste my money?  
January 11, 2009 3:32 PM
 

Decipher13 said:

Spouse returned? Nope
Child not deaf and mute anymore? Nope
Sales/Shortages happening again? Nope

This patch did nothing for me. It amazes me that it was allowed to be released in this condition. If it weren't for patches, this game would have been a huge failure in every respect. When's the next patch due out? If it's too far in the future then I've had it. I'll be trading this game in to Gamestop so it can be some other sap's problem. And Lionhead won't see a penny of it's resale.
January 11, 2009 7:51 PM
 

EverynoneStillDies said:

Does increasing skill ever make you weaker?

If not than what does?

How do u get these armors?
January 11, 2009 8:04 PM
 

EverynoneStillDies said:

Does increasing skill ever make you weaker?

If not than what does?

How do u get these armors?
January 11, 2009 8:05 PM
 

EverynoneStillDies said:

Does increasing skill ever make you weaker?

If not than what does?

How do u get these armors?
January 11, 2009 8:05 PM
 

EverynoneStillDies said:

Does increasing skill ever make you weaker?

If not than what does?

How do u get these armors?
January 11, 2009 8:05 PM
 

fable2isthebest said:

mad even though i didnt need it

btw are u sure the DLC is coming out tomorrow?!?!?!??!?!(i live in australia)
January 11, 2009 8:18 PM
 

mahchuz32 said:

This is bullshit, if this fixed the TOBY quest it didn't do *** for those of us who waited patiently already at that part of the game. Sure enough my fat character is still stuck in Bloodstone with no chance of completing this game. Thanks a lot douchebad Lionhead.
January 11, 2009 8:20 PM
 

Kaiu said:

Stuck in a scene is still present.

Wonder if it would be possible to incorporate a button combination that could send a kill signal to the scene script?  Glad some of the bugs were addressed though. Hopefully there will be another one hitting the others.
January 11, 2009 8:21 PM
 

UnknownOne007 said:

EveryoneStillDies... er no... increasing skill doesn't lower your strength, that's just dumb... and what lowers your strength is removing what you've already learned (discard ability or something like that)...

those armours are available in the all new Download content over Xbox Live release seems to be January 13... which is two days...
January 11, 2009 8:56 PM
 

Balverine115 said:

I flipped the hell out when I heard about Fable II DLC. I can't wait for this, going to go buy my MS points tomorrow Smily [:)]

( I hope they release some Pub Game Codes.. I found out SO late that they were doing this and I SO badly wanna get all my achievements plus have Pub Games in my Arcade Collection :3 )
January 11, 2009 9:13 PM
 

Nan3182 said:

Was really happy to see that this patch was out. Was being the key word. I am still unable to get on to the dock to start the Spire Quest. I also see that I am not the only one having this problem.
January 11, 2009 10:27 PM
 

Paith said:

This patch did not fix the quest "The rescue".

I am still stuck at the end of "The Rescue", standing by the ladder with my kid, ready to climb the ladder and finish the quest. But when I exit the cave, the trigger-event (meeting the spouse) never happens, and trying to leave the area just reloads and put me back in the cave with my child.

I think this is related to the family living in one of the demon gates, since my wife was imprisoned there not able to leave once I took her there (another bug).

My IRL partner also hade her spouse in the demon door, but before the mission "The Rescue", we made her family in the demon door "disappear", and continued the game with another family (not living in the demon door), and could pass "The Rescue" with no problems.
January 12, 2009 3:13 AM
 

ZZBrandon said:

G o o d [Good] job on patch fable 2 is an excellent game and is inspiring anyone who would burn it is obviously on drugs.
January 12, 2009 4:17 AM
 

Decipher13 said:

ZZBrandon clearly hasn't made it very far in the game, or he'd have encountered the bugs that still aren't fixed by now.
January 12, 2009 5:31 AM
 

Decipher13 said:

Could someone delete or edit DuzAwe's post above that has all the oooooooooooooooooooos? It's really messing up the formatting of the page. Kind of ironic since there's supposedly "caching and moderation" to catch that kind of stuff.
January 12, 2009 5:33 AM
 

Roar349 said:

Cool.
January 12, 2009 6:58 AM
 

catapult27 said:

Sam, I know you're not a programmer, but please pass this on:  this is totally f****ng unacceptable.  I've been waiting a month to progress in Bloodstone -- surely a short wait compared to others here.  Finally, the patch is out (a long download, too... must be a lot fixed!) and I am STILL unable to do anything (weapons, interactions, etc) in that town.  I cannot advance the main quest at all.  I want to hear that there is another patch coming ASAP or that Lionhead is prepared to refund my damn money.  

Seriously, I can't think of a single other console game in existence that is so completely broken as this one.  The sad part is that I actually liked the game.  FIX IT ALREADY!
January 12, 2009 8:14 AM
 

Sam said:

catapult27 not all fixes in the patch are "backwards compatible" - meaning, for certain bugs it is impossible to fix the issue in excisting saves that have already experienced the problem. For some fixes (like the furniture issue in Bowerstone and Bloodstone or the Abbot glitch) it is fixed in existing saves. My only advice to you is to re-start with a new character...
January 12, 2009 8:30 AM
 

Poseidon4 said:

-furniture glicht in bowerstone market fixed = YES

-HOUSE GLITCH BOWERSTONE MARKET "PLIMPINGTON MANOR"  I CAN ONLY "SET BUDGET" OR "REDECORATE", STILL CANNOT SELL/RENT IT OUT!!!!!! fixed = NO
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i hope you bring out a new patch, because al lot of glitches still needs to be fixed!
January 12, 2009 8:44 AM
 

catapult27 said:

Sam, thanks for the clarification.  Sorry for the angry rant above, but I do wish this had been made clear earlier.  After encountering the bug, I spent a lot of time on sidequests and buying houses and such, figuring it would all pay off after the patch.  It's frustrating, because as I said, I do quite like the game.  Unfortunately, I've just lost too many hours at this point, and other games are calling.  My copy's heading to ebay at this point.
January 12, 2009 8:50 AM
 

catapult27 said:

Sam, is there any possibility at all that Lionhead might allow us to send them save files for manual fixes?
January 12, 2009 8:51 AM
 

stevieeeles said:

This is silly. I recently bought fable 2. I have been waiting to play it for a while becuase I loved Fable (& TLC) so much. Only I was a bit surprised when it started crashing literally 5 minutes in.

If it was so full of bugs you should have been smart and said to people, its full of bugs, we need a little more time to fix it. Surely people would have been happy to wait...they dont want a game full of bugs.

I have heard that installing it to your hard drive seems to fix all of these problems, but, while i have been playing the 360 for a long time (aka, a mates), i have only recently been able to get one and as of yet dont have a hard drive. I dont even know whether that works or not.

But the thing that boggles my mind the most is why in the hell would you release a game with so many bugs and glitches ... its just not right. And the player sufferes as a concequence.

I dont know what your testers and de-buggers were playing when they should have been testing and de-bugging Fable 2.

I think I made my point Big Smile [:D]
January 12, 2009 8:54 AM
 

torino_elite said:

sam,
   hey funny you said that becuase i believe i have read posts of the abbot glitch still occuring. Also your company owes your consumers alot of compensasion due to the fact "some glitches are unfixable". Its not our fault that your game has unfixable glitches as a consumer i demand your company give refunds for you sorry excuse for a game.  I can see your motto now "we screwed up so we screw the consumer".   If there is no proper fix or refund i am going to try to return my unopened 4th brand new copy of fable 2 and swear off your companies products and tell everyone who askes me about your game exactly how it works and how you react to righting your screw ups. How many people have been waiting and could have returned thier game to still get something that works all the while you knew there were un fixable glitches bieng reported.  Oh yeah as of now your company would owe me roughly 100$ in gas, 100$ for fixing my elite that YOUR GAME crashed and finaly 60$ for your unfinished game.  Think about what your doing lion head becuase seriously if enough people get pissed off your company could lose tons of sales or worse lawsuites could happen.  Also to all of you who have not had issues i am glad for you , really i am but don't doubt or have issues about those of us who have voicing our opinions.  No one likes to be ripped off or taken advantage of, no matter if its a mechanic ripping you off or your brother stealing money from you.  Either way the way lion head has handled this and treated those who have had problems is completely unacceptable!  I gave you a chance, set by and waited for you to do the right thing, now i see that it was all for nothing and that its too much to ask you for honesty and integrity.  Your company deserves none of your awards it has recieved and should be investigated bt the bbb.
January 12, 2009 9:03 AM
 

torino_elite said:

also sorry about my rant.  I usually handle myself better than that but when i read of your unfixable glitches and know you were aware and did not get honest with those reporting them it pissed me off.  Either way nothing against you sam i understand your position and that you just work there but I am done buying your companies products and the only way you can make it right to me now is repay me for my x box repair, wasted gas and the game itself.
January 12, 2009 9:11 AM
 

Balverine115 said:

I was able to play through the whole game just fine, all sidequests, main quest, and back again 4 times O_O? I must have not gotten these glitches or noticed them.. maybe I just lucky..
January 12, 2009 10:09 AM
 

mgs2snake said:

I am so disappointed with Lionhead, need a say more? Will never buy from again.
January 12, 2009 10:39 AM
 

Sam said:

I have posted additional details regarding the patch and how certain fixes require you to leave the region etc...
January 12, 2009 11:45 AM
 

ElKlinku said:

Thanks sam!! It seems you've been listening to question of the community. Smily [:)]
January 12, 2009 1:02 PM
 

dgabourel said:

Hey Sam,

Question, how do I go about getting the codes I paid for with the Limited Edition but never got?

Thanks
January 12, 2009 1:48 PM
 

MRMehaha said:

Is this DLC going to fix the bug that keep freezing my game up every 2 seconds?
it is getting really annoying... and why am i the only person who is asking about this? am i the only person who is having this problem?
January 12, 2009 2:20 PM
 

MRMehaha said:

oh and are we the people going to be charged for this patch?
January 12, 2009 2:28 PM
 

torino_elite said:

@ mrmehaha,
  Actually that is the only problem that i have complained about to lion head.  Other than it crashing my x box but after 4 new discs and 1 rental and an x box repair later my game still freezes every 5 minutes i also cannot play the game.  By the way many others have complained of our same issue in other threads on this site, so we are not alone even though it might feel like it. (the "patch?" is free)
January 12, 2009 2:39 PM
 

MRMehaha said:

so is the Knothole island level free too?
January 12, 2009 2:59 PM
 

Balverine115 said:

To dgabourel:
The only code that comes with it is the LCE Content. So if you have gotten that   theres nothing to worry about.. (Unless theres more??)
January 12, 2009 3:10 PM
 

Casper1910 said:

MY QUESTION STILL HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED, WHAT IS GOING TO BEN DONE FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T AQUIRE THE PATCH BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A BROADBAND CONNECTION?! Not everybody can afford broadband, sad but true, and I expect to be compensated for all the bugs in the game. All I want is the patch to fix it is that to much to ask? I mean I paid G o o d [Good] bloody money for this game ($100 Australian $$) and all it does is play up. Sam if you you can answer this question it would be much appreciated. Cheers.
January 12, 2009 6:55 PM
 

ZZBrandon said:

I have played through the game like 4-5 times with few-little bugs.  Thankfully this patched has fixed many of them thank you.
January 12, 2009 8:26 PM
 

fable2isthebest said:

Poseidon4 thats what happened to me(but in old town) its when my wife devorced me and i beleive she gets half the rights to the house,meaning u cant sell it or rent it out but its  werid cuz she leaves the region.the other wife i had wanted to devorce me so i just killed her u get less E v i l [Evil] points and like a 100g fine or something but u get to keep the house for selling and renting out.
January 12, 2009 8:52 PM
 

Jake9999 said:

Hi sam

Thanks for all your help...I'm still stuck on the spire quest..I cannot get the captain to acknowledge me to get on the boat for the first time. I tried entering Westlake and then leaving but it didnt seem to do anything...how do I make this work?
January 12, 2009 9:50 PM
 

vgrindel said:

So, no Brightwood fix.......... 6 weeks of waiting for a remedy, down the drain........
January 12, 2009 9:52 PM
 

Deicard said:

To most of the people not giving constructive criticism, you will most likely be ignored. Considering you are not assisting at all by posting negative comments all the time. There is a difference from telling a programming a development team what your exact problems are and what you have tried to do in attempt to fix this, but you don’t. There are any numbers of things that can go wrong in a dynamic engine or world, just like other games. Honestly, if you want people release patches why would you bite the hand that feeds you.

If you start a new game and the problem still continues, it could possibly be hardware, or software (related to cache), when the data populates anything can go wrong considering how dynamic the consumers wanted this world. It is also possible to completely clear the cache on the 360, it’s called maintenance, which you can look up how to do. Which will clear any patches with the game and the cache; in which case you will have to download the patches again. Also, you will need to start a new game, otherwise the cache will repopulate. For the most part I’ve done this a number of times to fix a few things I had problems with in different saves.  If the game is freezing all the time then it is most likely a hardware issue.

There is also the fact that when you post on their development blog, you, the consumer agreed terms. They have they have every right to just delete derogatory posts. However they do not, and let free speech take place. If you have a major problem with something be constructive.
January 12, 2009 10:10 PM
 

FirePoker said:

I don't see why you people are Bashing poor Sam. Anyways as I have not Downloaded the Patch myself yet. Is there problems caused by the patch that were not there before? Because I experienced few problems in all my playthroughs, one large one involving marriage at the end of my first one. And None at all that I could deal with myself in the other ones. So In short, does the patch mess things up for people that had minor problems in the first place?
January 12, 2009 10:51 PM
 

Grizzlyhagen said:

I've been stuck for quite a while in the same spot.  All of my current quests end up in Westcliff and therein lies my problem.  I've tried every entrance into the area and each end up frozen.  Please fix this problem i'm tearing my hair out over it.  I've grown tired earning money in wait for a patch that fixes this problem so for now I will just periodically check the site for updates.  Thanks.
January 12, 2009 11:19 PM
 

Blacky2000 said:

That's nice now FIX THE ONLINE CO-OP CAMERA.It should be an individual camera for each player.
January 12, 2009 11:43 PM
 

TasteTheWin said:

ok, i have a question, this patch didn't fix the spouse issue, as my wife is still lost somewhere near brightwood tower, sooo, my big question is, if i can't complete Retribution, will i still be able to play knothole island, or am i required to have completely finished the main campaign?
January 13, 2009 12:33 AM
 

illyhaSkel said:

After downloading the patch, nothing has changed.  I am still stuck in bloodstone; unable to draw a weapon or interact with anyone.  
January 13, 2009 2:56 PM
 

scjagfan said:

All I wanted was my DOG BACK without having to restart the game again!!! Why cant i get my DOG BACK?????
January 13, 2009 3:15 PM
 

devilatwork said:

After Downloading the Patch, eager to play as my hero (even though on my own i deleted my old to see i could fix it by various web sites), I started a new game as A MAN and i get loading... loading... loading... stop... NOTHING. I though that the bugs for hero of skill was fixed!!!!!!!! So i deleted all the heros i made (which were pretty much new game hero with the stupid loading and screwing up) plus my bro until we both had one hero left. I tried again and still nothing. I tried my bros save and nothing either. WTF IS WITH YOU PEOPLE! I GAVE YOU 60 OF MY OWN MONEY THAT I HAD TO WORK MY A$$ OFF AND YOU GIVE ME 1 HOUR OF PURE JOY ONLY TO R^PE ME AT THE END BY BUGGING ME AND GIVING ME A LOADING SCREEN. I have to admit it is a beautiful loading screen but I DID NOT SPEND 60 DOLLARS OF MY OWN CASH FOR A F%^KING LOADING SCREEN. EITHER YOU GIVE ME MY HOURS OF TRYING TO FIXING THIS AND FAILING PLUS MY 60 DOLLARS AND MY PURE ENJOYMENT WASTED ON YOUR ATTEMPTS TO PULL A RABBIT OF YOUR HAT, COVER IT IN PURE CONFETTI KNOWING THAT THE BUNNY HAS RABBIS AND GOING TO CHEW MY ARM OFF, AND SELLING IT TO A HARD WORKING MAN!!!!!!!!! FIX IT!!!! Don't get me wrong I loved the first Fable and I am an RPG fan of Oblivion and Fallout 3 plus many others but this is not worth 60 Dollars lining your pockets so there!!!!!!!!
January 13, 2009 6:17 PM
 

daglutton said:

Thank you LionHead, you bunch of doorknobs. I've waited and waited for this patch (even paid for the DLC, just to be safe) and guess what? My character is still stuck in Bloodstone, just like a crap load of people here. You all can be sure that you won't ever get any money from me. For all I care, you can starve to death.
January 13, 2009 7:50 PM
 

freshstealth said:

Got the update but the ship captain at the dock is still unresponsive. What do i do now????????????????????????????? Got out of the region and came back to the same problem
January 13, 2009 10:35 PM
 

FlintZA said:

Pity the missing family bug isn't on the list, kind of a showstopper for the Retribution quest (after finishing the main quest). I would have thought allowing visiting a family other than your first family to meet the quest condition would do the job? Oh well, thanks for taking the time to fix other bugs anyway.
January 14, 2009 1:08 AM
 

brokenfable said:

My game still does not load, you did not fix everything.

:< suggest offering a refund to customers as the product is not suitable for the purpose in which it is sold (e.g. actually being able to play through the game for some people), this is illegal in my country.

I liked your video of the bug testers and the part where they say its going gold we got all the bugs, epic fail.

Was waiting patiently for this patch, posting nothing of my disappointment, but now obviously when the patch still doesn't fix the bugs um yeah enough said.

Fable will go down in history as the most over hyped under delivering series ever.
January 14, 2009 4:24 AM
 

link12984 said:

I played fable II though twice before it started to freeze on me. I waited for the patch i downloaded said patch but my game is still freezing every 5 minutes, so i deleted all of my game saves ( about 35hrs worth ) and started a new game, it froze as my sparrow was *** on by the bird just like the gaming communty is shitting on fable II and all its bugs.

Please fix this soon or ill just trade it in for fallout 3 and never touch another game made by Lionhead Studios.
January 14, 2009 5:18 AM
 

Iorkca said:

Does anyone know the sie of the patch, I unfortunatly live in a dialup only zone so the size determines if i will be fixing my game or not.  I am already taken out of experiencing the DLC because of it, so i would reall like some G o o d [Good] news on the size of the patch so i can determine if i am selling my game or continuing with it.  Thanks
January 14, 2009 8:08 AM
 

torino_elite said:

@ iorkca,
 if your having issues w/ fable like the rest of us i can say with 100 percent confidence that the patch and lion head themselves will do nothing to fix it.  I personally have wrote them on these blogs and through email many time and have not got so much as any kind of response.  Not through email, blogging or when i am polite, professional or rude.  They simply don't give a crap about thier customers.  So if i was you i would sell that crappy game before it trashes your x box. One thing you can try is downloading it to your harddrive if you have room, i heard that has worked for some.
   Also i don't need any lion head @ss kissers commenting back to me, i don't need to hear crap from people who apparently have no idea what the customers who are getting screwed are going through.  I am happy your games work and you actually get to play yours but these blogs are here for everyone who bought the game so we have just as much right to voice our opinions and complaints.
January 14, 2009 8:49 AM
 

Dynastic_Juice said:

I will admit they were smart with all the teasing they did with the patch... "its coming soon... ooh wait, we were delayed but its all being fixed and it will be coming soon... oooh yea, we all went on vacation, but its coming soon... YAY ITS OUT!!!... what do you mean this voided your 90 day warranty... oops, sorry" Now i don't have my receipt, this is my 3rd copy of the game, the patch did nothing, i cant afford to start over because i was almost DONE with the game and as a full time student i don't have the luxury to make up that ground when I'm not on a break and there is nothing i can do about this $60 i wasted on release by pre-ordering it.  Its not hardware because it doesn't work in my friends xbox either, and i THOUGHT the patch would fix it so i sat around and waited and waited and waited like everyone else for this patch to solve my problems only to have you spit in our faces.  This was unbelievably unprofessional and frankly, E v i l [Evil]. I have been unable to get in contact with anyone from Lionshead without getting a response back telling me they are working to address the issue and telling me to check these forums for updates.  I just want to TALK TO SOMEONE on a personal level to ease my mind about the issues at hand here.  Instead of complaining about a repair man not Coming to fix heat in your homes think of it form our point of view... we, the customers, had the heat break in our homes in sub-zero temperatures and when we called the repair guy he gave us a time from between 2 and December of next year that he would be able to stop by and fix it... then he showed up a month later and when he finally came to fix it, he just used your bathroom and left.  I have no issues with ANY other game and i will probably never guy a lionshead game again.  you can take the awards this "game" won and chuck them in the furnace to keep your house warm because yes, i did enjoy the game from what i could play, but to blow x number of hours to progress in a game to have it crap out before the end just shows me that the people handing out awards got a few of the only G o o d [Good] copies that were made and even if the greatest game EVER gets released and it is a Lionshead game... i wont get it.  Not because it wont be G o o d [Good], not because it will necessarily be glitched, but because the backstabbing, impersonal customer service and support provided by Lionshead filled me with such a sense of disgust that i just couldn't being myself to deal with it again... consider the $20 of un-played content in Fable II i couldn't get to my parting gift to you, enjoy the dirty money you stole form thousands with the empty promise of a "FUNCTIONING" game.
January 14, 2009 1:27 PM
 

poisontongue said:

Your patch crashed my game!
January 14, 2009 1:29 PM
 

jaywilly said:

Ship captain is still not responsive for the spire quest this patch has done a big fat F all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i have kept hold of my game instead of getting a RE-FUND !! thinking this patch would fix the problem.  

Time to trade in this bag of crap
January 14, 2009 2:50 PM
 

freshstealth said:

The patch did nothing for me. The captain does not respond!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fix the problem or reimburse the thousands of people that have gotten scre**d. I will never buy another Lionhead game, this is consumer fraud!
January 14, 2009 3:26 PM
 

Casper1910 said:

To Lionhead, have a look around at most of these comments. They don't sound very positive do they. Now think how this is goin to affect your sales in the future. Yea that's right it's going to royally F@#K with your sales. And it is your own fault, nobody elses, YOURS! Now like many of these people here, I have been screwed over too. WOW what a suprise!! I have paid $100 for this game, because I liked the first Fable and thought, hell, FableII will be even better. Only to find it was poorly made and full of glitches. Now I noticed in the first one they rushed that as well, didn't even finish the full game. So they released Fable: The Lost Chapters when they decided to finish it. And what did the people who bought the original Fable have to do? Well obviously they went out and bought The lost Chapters. For Lionhead this was great! They managed to suck more money out of Fable fans for a bit of extra gameplay at the end, that should have been there in the first place. They could have just taken their time to make the complete version of this game. NOOOO. They had to rush it. Now my point is they have done this with Fable II they have rushed the production of this game, and it shows with the crappy quality of the game. Full of bugs. Now they could have just taken the extra time to sit through the game, test it for bugs, fix them, then release it. NOPE obviously not. How half assed is that! And I paid this much money for the game? HAHAHA. What a F@#*ING joke! Then they release a patch to "fix" these problems. Now I have dial up and am unable to obtain this patch unfortunatley. So I raised this issue to Lionhead by emailing them. They wrote back not answering my question, but giving me links back to here, and telling me that they have made a patch to fix it and you can download it on xbox live. Now did i just not tell them that I couldn't get onto xbox live because I have only got dial up? They didn't listen to me, they didn't care. So I wrote back to them asking them to answer my question. Quite nicely I might add. Now they just have ignored me completely. NICE LIONHEAD! NICE TO KNOW YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMERS!!! And from what I see around this blog the patch doesn't work anyway. WOW u guys have really f@#ked up. And you will suffer for it. If you continue to ignore me, you can count on another +1 that will not buy your games ever again. Peace!
January 14, 2009 7:43 PM
 

Maurerk said:

Thanks for the update, nice to know that you do a through job Smily [:)]
January 15, 2009 6:38 AM
 

KingEnol said:

I have repeated myself over and over again regarding my complaints with the game. But I liked it so much I even tried to work my way up the leadership boards. The Plaits Hairstyle game ending bug still exists in my game still even after the patch. I am tired of it real tired. So much that I started going back and playing some of my other games, the ones I decided to come back to after fable.
I am now 40 hours into Persona 3 FES and plan to buy Persona 4. I am so done with this game.
I have decided that the best way to get Lionhead back on this is to simply sell my game back to Gamestop. This way when someone decides to buy a used version of the game rather then new Lionhead doesn't make a dime off of it.
End of Oct, Nov, Dec, Jan and still no fix. Reading through this forum I see I am not the only one whose problems were not fixed. There are companies out there who know how to make a G o o d [Good] game and make it work the first time through and when they do a remake or expansion you can't help but buy it.
Really how are you going to have the Gambler Achievement and the game lock up when you go for it.
Patch Fail
Game Fail
Next time I get one of your games it will be USED. I can't justify giving you guys my money. Now ATLUS they can get it there RPG's are the ***. Challenging and Rewarding at the same time. Lets face it this game was not challenging at all. And what little rewards were stolen away by glitches, crashes, and an unfinished poorly tested game.
I am done here back to Persona 3 FES...damn you guys got replaced by a PS2 game, EASILY might I add.
Sincerly
Enol
January 15, 2009 11:25 AM
 

listener88 said:

I will first say that I have not tried the patch yet - but why you ask wouldn't anyone not download the saving grace for thousands of people? Well, my Xbox was sent for repair - RROD while playing Fable 2. I admit maybe it was just its time after a year of game playing, but I noticed others have had the same thing happen. I digress - the patch - it seems it is not a patch at all from the comments here - it fixes very little. The ones having problems (myself included- game glitches and Xbox failure) must understand that Knothole DLC had to be released - Lionhead wants the money coming in from those that had no problems since they number more than those that can't play the game due to glitches and won't be buying anything more till the problems are fixed. Will we get a workable game - probably not - the only thing we can do since Lionhead does not listen is to write magazines and sites that review games and point them to the blogs and forums that outline the numerous problems with the game and ask them to research deeper before giving a thumbs up. I can't understand why Lionhead doesn't have the balls to talk to people contacting them - they certainly had the balls to ship a game that they had to have known had problems. They did play the game didn't they - didn't they have to play for hours to make sure the programming was right and to debug? So how could it be that none of these game problems came up before shipping? I think that they did and it was decided there wouldn't be enough people to warrant holding the game back and not have it ship before the holidays. Our $60 lost but their gain. I like what I have been able to play thus far and it is a G o o d [Good] game, but I think it is very unjust and and bordering on criminal how Lionhead seems to be pissing on us that are having problems.
January 15, 2009 12:42 PM
 

Megus17 said:

Archeon's Knot is still not fixed
Two bugs have occurred on my first character 1) The door stays locked keeping me from getting the Dachai 2) It is stuck on the left trigger caption for the candles making the game think i'm targeting it at all times so i cant interact with other players
January 15, 2009 4:41 PM
 

Casper1910 said:

Listener88 - it would not suprise me one bit if Fable II screwed your xbox up. Ever since playing Fable II i've had nothing but problems with my console.

Oh and for the record i'm still waiting to hear back from lionhead. In case you "lost" my email address here it is: marc_g1910@hotmail.com
And my question again was, what is going to be done for those who cannot aquire the patch due to only having a dial up connection?
Even though the patches may not work (judging from the comments around here) I still want Lionhead to make it right to their customers.
January 15, 2009 7:34 PM
 

EViL_kRi said:

What a pile of cluster F#@K this game is. Maybe the patch is working if I could play the game more than 5 minutes before it freezes.

M$ should take action here as the publisher of an EXCLUSIVE title to X360!
If not,  please give me an option to delete this game from my Played Games list and delete my cheevos so I don't have to be remided of what a pile of garbage this game is.
January 16, 2009 10:09 AM
 

link12984 said:

Its not just one moment but many, When the game kept freezing every 10 bloody minutes because lionhead where so money hungy that they released fable 2 with bugs still in it. They gave me no reason why so i had to look all over the net until one nice person ( who wasn't from Lionhead studios ) told me to install it on my harddrive and delete all my game saves as they were corrupt ( about 35hrs worth ) but now i can play fable 2 again without it freezing up but im not sure i want to play fable 2 anymore, ive just lost my love for the game and for lionhead studios.  


The Knothole island DLC should be free for everyone who has had problems with this game, but i guess Lionhead studios just dosnt care about there fans just there money.  

My email address is :       hollis.84@hotmail.com    
January 16, 2009 5:44 PM
 

Pradator said:

I recently downloaded the update and am pleased to see that my original charcater save that didn't load up properly (due to game saving in a stupid place where it's still loading up the background and saving some mission thing automatically) now loads up fine, so I have all those special items (that I spent ages to get in the pub games) back! YAY!
I haven't checked up on the freezing issues or the monk quest but so far my biggest annoyance has been dealt with so I'm ... not annoyed anymore.
This probably means I will start playing fable 2 again. Soon.
January 17, 2009 1:49 PM
 

moofacekiller said:

ships captin still unresponsive,  nice work..... seriously nice work.... i mean you guys got skillz i cud only dream of....

to be honest i feel like the biggest twat for even trying it


^ mug  
January 18, 2009 3:45 PM
 

torino_elite said:

@ link,
  I did not have to delete my saved games and after downloading it to my hard drive my old games actually did work.  So try your old game first after downloading it to your hard drive.  Although i see your point even though it might work lion head may not deserve our x box time or money.
January 20, 2009 2:16 PM
 

torino_elite said:

@ link,
  I did not have to delete my saved games and after downloading it to my hard drive my old games actually did work.  So try your old game first after downloading it to your hard drive.  Although i see your point even though it might work lion head may not deserve our x box time or money.
January 20, 2009 2:16 PM
 

Tronzorb said:

Hi Sam,
I have a problem with the bard.  He wont let me pick a song, and also wont let me leave to cancel the menu selection, even if I walk halfway across Oakfield.  He causes me to walk stupidly slow, I can't draw a weapon or use a spell.  It fixes once I leave the area and returns when I reenter Oakfield.  If you could fix this in the next week or so that would be great.

Thanks
January 20, 2009 11:57 PM
 

steblon said:

so what about the actual freezing problems?
January 21, 2009 6:40 PM
 

torino_elite said:

@ steblon,
  they have no fix for the freezing problems.   i know becuase i hounded them for days by email and threads asking them about thier plans to fix it.  I never got any kind of response and the day of the patch release my ultimate frustration set in due to the fact my game still froze every 5 minutes.  You know i went through 3 new discs and a rental plus an x box repair becuase of thier faulty game and never so much as got an aplology or even a response.   My only suggestion to you is to download it to your hard drive and try that.  It worked for me, even my original game started working fine after i did that.   No thanks to lion head for that info i found it out from a fellow gamer posting on a  thread.
January 22, 2009 9:30 AM
 

FearofBlades said:

This gives my unlife meaning "smiles grimly".
January 23, 2009 1:38 AM
 

madmanmoore said:

this is stupid i was waiting for an update to get more achievments and finish the game. the first time i took the update, it worked but when i turned by 360 off and tried it the next day, it did not work. Please could you fix this freezing issue, its driving me MAD!!!!!
January 24, 2009 3:17 AM
 

johnafirth said:

Patch didn't work for my stuck character. Joy. Is there any way of just deleting the save?
January 24, 2009 6:44 AM
 

KigreTheViking said:

Reading about Fable II with a co-op option made me very excited.
But in research of the game so far i cant see that they have fixed many things.
Most important for me was to be able to show eachothers Heroes to your friend in multiplayer.
But NO? And some places in the game is buggy some reports say.
But to me the co-op part had so G o o d [Good] potential and they shock us with things that should be obvious, but isnt there.
I will not buy this game if there is no second patch coming quickly as shait.

1. Your invited friends Hero should and obviously look the same as he made him look. With abilities and looks. OF COURSE!

2. If the host is gonna buy/sell or click any other menu ingame. Why not split the screen simply? Or make both enter shop?

3. Having bugs that freezes the game and can make the main quest and missions uncompleteable
   is nothing new but should be very few during release. Escpecially critical ones.


I have not yet tried the game yet as i have little money but enough to buy one game now.
I was going for this but as i said, to me the importance of "correctly" and deep co-op gameplay is priority.

If i had the chance to develop any part of this game.
I would just simply make gamemods in the game that you choose before starting Co-op.
Example: Choosing "Hardcore" or "Extreme" difficulty. You make it so that your mana
and ammo are possible to deplete, wepaons and armor can be destroyed if its not taken
care of (Repaired) or enchanted. And you need potions recharge or you can go back somewhere to recharge.
But... if your buddy goes down you can drag him to a safer location or to cover.
(Like a feat in the game Army of 2) Beat off the enemies and heal. If he has mana left.
And if one player becomes very damaged but does not fall down and can still barly fight standing up.
The other one can back him up and they fight as one if both players are unable to heal from lack of mana and potions.
If one dies the other must revive with potion or spell. Or.... put him on shoulders and run
him off to a "temple", "church" etc... And they have to stock up on potions, heal, repair armor/wepaons,
get new spells abilities and so on and try again. All these things should be in some stats list as Fable I had.
And in these options within the game you can add new abilities easy as well.

Example 1: If you become low on health you have 15% chance go "Ultra Berserk" or something and do
insane damage and have different moves. Maybe a few random moves as well while shouting loud as he is totally Berserk. Smily [:)]

Example 2: "War Cry" or "Fear Shout" etc... If loads of enemies player might get a (10%)
chance to to do a "War Cry" depending on how G o o d [Good] the player is doing, how many combos he does,
how it varies and are unhit.
Can even implent "Co-op War Cry" as well. If both players do extremely well they might togheter
press the random button set up that is presented and they may perfrom a team war cry. Stunning and scaring enemies.

(Additiona)l: If both player do well and perform a "Co-op War Cry" Some of the enemies that run in fear might shout out loud "Retreat, get backup" Or something while they run off.
And if players still are in that area after a short while, the ones that escaped will return with even more men, creatures and maybe a Hero, Semi-Boss or something like that. (Something heavy)

Enemy "War Cry" : If both players do badly versus many enemies. One or many enemies may perform a
"War Cry" and stun or scare both players. (Laugh and point, scream and shout) Smily [:)]

- A little Martial Arts?-

If armor and or weapon is destroyed of course he can go in melee combat.
But can he grapple\grab or disarm and opponent. Like mounting, tackeling, punshing weapons away, submissions, wresteling etc...?

My fantasy is that with this kind of gamemod (Hardcore, Extreme.. etc) made you can get epic situations.
When its games within games well balanced within the fighting system.

Imagine, one player is down on his back low on health. (He can crawl slowly) Blocking, shooting,
using spells and potions if he dont have healing means. And the other player has to help out.
(If both players are down and unable to get up they might bleed out and fail.)
(Can be automatic if players have ZERO chance of healing)
(Can crawl to healing location if close, pick up remaining potions in field from enemy or other)

Also, if one player is down and the other is fighting and have no mana left he can throw potions with a
"pause screen" (That is allready in the game but it works bad and for only one player at a time)
But this
will be so that one player first chooses the simple ability to throw item the screen pauses and he chooses
what to throw. Press ok. And we're back. Item is being throwned. But if enemy is in the way or enemy hits
thrower the item is dropped. (OF COURSE) Smily [:)]

Im just gonna continue here. Smily [:)]

-More Co-op Moves-

Example 1: If one player stands in "Catch/Throw Player" stance and the other runs towards him at right
angle the one in stance gotta time when the other grabs hold and you can swing one player around with a
flying roundkick or a Throw sword blow. And the player that runs towards gotta time too if he is going
to grab hold of his buddy to sving attack or to be tossed forward.  
Should also be able to throw enemies at eachother or into objects.
And when enemies are throwned at one player. He can perfrom an attack combined with his friends throw.
He must simply time the impact of the throwed enemy and stabs enemy, or jump mid air, grab enemy and
smash him into the ground or doing some heavy blow mid air.

And you can also swing enemies around if they miss an forward attacking blow and
then you use "Grab enemy" or
something after a dodge. You can sving him around and the other player can time his impact on the off balanced enemy.

More Co-op moves.

-Magic-

This one is easy though.
Both players can perform magic togheter as one spell/move. (Dont know if that is allready in the game) Smily [:)]

This is just me ranting on with ideas.
I just want to be able to play an awesome game and im tierd of seeing games failing to
my expectations again and again with often just small details that effects the whole game.    
(And i had high ones for this one)
Lacking deeper gameplay, options and atmosphere.
As far as i can see this game has great potential but things needs to be added fast.
I do have alot of experience with gaming in general. So i know what i want. Smily [:)]

So unless a couple of things in Co-op is not fixed ASAP.
This is a "No Buy" from me. And this one first patch does not do it for me still it seems.

!!!Warning!!!  
-As i have not tried the game or done 100% research about it all, this may be WAY off. Smily [:)]

-Peace people-
January 25, 2009 6:30 PM
 

g00n77 said:

i got patch but still cannot draw my wepons in bloodstone.....oh well i guess im screwed eh?
January 26, 2009 6:40 PM
 

bobbyfore said:

Where is this download every one is talking about?all i got was the co-op download
when i first tried to load the game?as with many,my game freezes every frekin 30 seconds to 30 minuites and alot of the times im trying to go into another area sometimes it freezes totaly and sometimes it just freezes  my charector,it dont make any since,this is my 2nd copy of the game ,there are no visable scratches,
and was traded 30 miles from where i bought the first game at,so why does it freeze???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
with all do respect fix me please.my brother lives 1000 miles away from me and he had the same problem as me,his game wont work at all now and he told me not to buy it,but like a dumb ass i did, now im stuck with this 70.00 dollar drink coster
with all do respect please fix the freezing issuesa.a.s.a.p   Bobby Fore
January 26, 2009 8:40 PM
 

bobbyfore said:

Where is this download every one is talking about?all i got was the co-op download
when i first tried to load the game?as with many,my game freezes every frekin 30 seconds to 30 minuites and alot of the times im trying to go into another area sometimes it freezes totaly and sometimes it just freezes  my charector,it dont make any since,this is my 2nd copy of the game ,there are no visable scratches,
and was traded 30 miles from where i bought the first game at,so why does it freeze???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
with all do respect fix me please.my brother lives 1000 miles away from me and he had the same problem as me,his game wont work at all now and he told me not to buy it,but like a dumb ass i did, now im stuck with this 70.00 dollar drink coster
with all do respect please fix the freezing issuesa.a.s.a.p   Bobby Fore
January 26, 2009 9:45 PM
 

Sapindaceae said:

Fix the rest of the game you cheap bastards!
February 5, 2009 3:59 AM
 

SupeRaven2K said:

Can you please fix the missing spouse/2nd ring bug already. I stopped playing the game in December and have been waiting for the fix. I had intended to complete Fable II before venturing into the Capital Wasteland, but after the patch came out and didn't resolve the bug I needed something entertaining to do.
February 10, 2009 4:51 PM
 

killerapplepie said:

-thanks-
February 14, 2009 8:50 PM
 

BNCChicago said:

Does anyone have a fix for Bowerstone Market?  We are unable to run and can't draw weapons.  It's like walking in slow motion.  It only happens to us in Bowerstone Market.
February 15, 2009 11:23 AM
 

Mister_Monkeyman said:

My character is also still stuck in Bloodstone, and Im wondering when this is going to get fixed.
February 17, 2009 9:01 AM
 

IlliniFan8 said:

could you fix the rescue quest? cuz its very glitched and i cant continue it
February 19, 2009 9:57 PM
 

Sabs23 said:

Can you please fix the glitch where you get stuck after doing The Arena. I cannot move, target, attack, or interact with orbs. I really love this game and ive gotten so far in it and i would be devastated if i had to start all over again.
February 21, 2009 9:37 PM
 

zircher said:

Abbott still glitched for me.  Not G o o d [Good].  Any suggestions on how to fix that after the patch fails?
--
TAZ
March 6, 2009 8:23 PM
 

sleightmind said:

It looks like I'm one of the unlucky ones who can't draw a weapon, cast a spell, or interact with any object or person in Bloodstone. Is there any further ongoing patch development to address this issue? I absolutely will not start this game over after putting so many hours into my character.
March 30, 2009 2:17 PM
 

Gakman said:

I'm still crashed with the pub games bug...
April 13, 2009 3:29 AM
 

foolycooly_mad said:

well i had the problem with the abbot... sucked bad. so pissed. well i used the patch.... it worked!!! so happy. thank you lionhead! now im worried about the rest of the game... so many problems. really bad. cause its a G o o d [Good] game. i wish you guys could have done better. i did hear you were pressed on time. which i could understand. cause i know kind of how these things work... but never mind. please do as much as you can(i know my word wont help) cause if i get stuck again, i would love to just go on x box live again and fix it... but never mind again. thank you for your help so far. im so happy i dont have to start over. and i was really getting tired of that town. dont know how many times i had that guy play the guitar. so when does fable 3 come out!!!!
May 26, 2009 1:25 AM
 

TheBolm said:

I have a problem, i'm trying to get the "the completionist" acheivement! but I can't acheive it cause I can't get the expression "feign death" that you get on heroes tale! I've already got the chicken suite from the site, but can I get more then one reward?

Can somebody help me? would like all kinds of help! msg me ASAP if you know something!
August 12, 2009 11:36 PM
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