Now, if you're reading this with the orange bar, this is different. Clicky. Clicky now! This isn't one of the normal "Is the undead god Nemesis" threads. This is a thread in which I'm determined to find out, not only discuss it, though that is going to be part of it as well. So, as for why the undead god could and would be Nemesis: 1-Well, he does actually sound a bit like him with a hoarse voice. 2-At the start, when he raises the undead armies he says "Now, my old friends,...". Why would he call Aztec skeletons his old friends unless he ruled the Aztecs once? 3-He's an undead god. Nemesis died. If Nemesis came back he'd be, by definition, undead. 4-Not exactly commenly mentioned, but in the cutscene at the start he says "I sense another", and goes on about he must destroy the other god - you. Now, who else was determined to be the only god? 5-If you can come back, why not Nemesis? So, discuss your theories here and, though I know this is in vain... Please, LH peoplez, tell us. I said please !

As for why the undead god can't and won't be Nemesis:

 Quoting: Zatl

1-Well, he does actually sound a bit like him with a hoarse voice.

Doesn't sound all that similar to me. And would a being of pure spirit (e.g. a god) get a sore throat? Especially when he is a hand, without even a spiritual throat to get sore?

 Quoting: Zatl

2-At the start, when he raises the undead armies he says "Now, my old friends,...". Why would he call Aztec skeletons his old friends unless he ruled the Aztecs once?

They are his undead, thus his peers and friends. And, at that point, compared to him they are very old. Several million times older than him infact.

 Quoting: Zatl

3-He's an undead god. Nemesis died. If Nemesis came back he'd be, by definition, undead.

Not necessarily: There is a difference between undead, reborn and ressurected.

 Quoting: Zatl

4-Not exactly commenly mentioned, but in the cutscene at the start he says "I sense another", and goes on about he must destroy the other god - you. Now, who else was determined to be the only god?

Let's see: Both Nemesis and you. Oh, and probably Lethys, and quite possibly Khazzar. The goal of a god is to wield absolute power, and that can only be achieved when the competition is gone. Also, you're alive, and he hates life, ergo, he hates you. Quod Erat Demonstrandum

 Quoting: Zatl

5-If you can come back, why not Nemesis?

Because you were asleep, Nemesis was dead. Life is a potent drug. The withdrawal symptoms are extremely severe. Most have decided that the undead god is called Zatl, which you (first as Undead--God, and then as Zatl) should understand. In this thread, you seek to undermine the whole point of your avitar-name.

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 Quoting: Khelder

Most have decided that the undead god is called Zatl, which you (first as Undead--God, and then as Zatl) should understand. In this thread, you seek to undermine the whole point of your avitar-name.

Have they? I haven't seen it. Well anyway, good. Naming a god after someone, the highest honour! And, to be honest, I can't think of anyone who deserves it more.

Nemesis was never killed. He dwells in the void until awaken again, and he simply can't awaken again as an undead. The only escape from the void is through a prayer, and the Aztecs weren't praying to him.

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How do you know? It didn't specify, not in the instruction booklet, unless I'm mistaken.

Because I know how the void works. A god doesn't die, he's expelled. This god seems to have actually died (no, I'm not contradicting myself), and Nemesis didn't die.

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if it was nemesis, he would have said somthing like ~"i have retunred" or somthing queer like that. its not nemesis, he doesn't even have a name

This god is born from death, and unalterably evil, while Nemesis was born from life, then banished. Also, I thought that if you were an evil god, Nemesis was 100% good in BW Ergo, Nemesis is not the Undead God.

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 Quoting: MJLOVER

Because I know how the void works. A god doesn't die, he's expelled. This god seems to have actually died (no, I'm not contradicting myself), and Nemesis didn't die.

I don't know about you, but if I were a Goddess, I'd thinking being cast into a void as close to "death" as any God or Goddess can get.

 Quoting: MJLOVER

Nemesis was never killed. He dwells in the void until awaken again, and he simply can't awaken again as an undead. The only escape from the void is through a prayer, and the Aztecs weren't praying to him.

However the Aztec leader did pray for an Aztec God, and I've always thought that the Undead God could be Nemesis since Nemesis' main town was an Aztec civilization.

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Though Nemesis may have had an Aztec town as his main town, it still doesn't explain why he is suddenly raised as a dead god, when he's not exactly dead. The prayer should have let Nemesis out of the void, not bring him back from the dead. The undead god did not come from the void (I think it's safe to say that the void does not hold dead gods).

 Quoting: Oceanborn_Angel

I don't know about you, but if I were a Goddess, I'd thinking being cast into a void as close to "death" as any God or Goddess can get.

You may say, that for a god, being thrown into the void is equivalent to being killed. But he does live in the void, he's not dead.

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He's not necessarily actually undead though; just with the power to control it.

I think it's clear that he's undead when he, at the beginning, says "This land reeks of life".

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 Quoting: MJLOVER

I think it's clear that he's undead when he, at the beginning, says "This land reeks of life".

Maybe he liked dead peeps? I mean, a straight guy might like a land full of women and no men but that doesn't mean he's a woman .

That's because of sexuality. I'm pretty sure Nemesis wasn't sexually attracted to humans, and dead ones at that

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 Quoting: MJLOVER

That's because of sexuality. I'm pretty sure Nemesis wasn't sexually attracted to humans, and dead ones at that

Ah, but you have no way of being certain. =b Yahweh did knock up Mary, afterall.

There is no way to be certain in this discussion, only plausible

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 Quoting: MJLOVER

That's because of sexuality. I'm pretty sure Nemesis wasn't sexually attracted to humans, and dead ones at that

Do you know that ?

 Quoting: Zatl

How do you know? It didn't specify, not in the instruction booklet, unless I'm mistaken.

Instruction booklets only tell the how-to's and a little story. The story isn't always right, y'nkow

1-Well, he does actually sound a bit like him with a hoarse voice.

True, but that doesn't mean anything :/

2-At the start, when he raises the undead armies he says "Now, my old friends,...". Why would he call Aztec skeletons his old friends unless he ruled the Aztecs once?

He was summoned by Aztecs. He may have had a link or relationship with them long time ago.

3-He's an undead god. Nemesis died. If Nemesis came back he'd be, by definition, undead.

He's only undead because he was summoned from corpses, not live sacrifices.

4-Not exactly commenly mentioned, but in the cutscene at the start he says "I sense another", and goes on about he must destroy the other god - you. Now, who else was determined to be the only god?

I bet any other god can sense another. Remember in BnW1? When Khazar made that vortex for you to escape? He knew you were out there, so he helped you against Nemesis. Plus, it's every god's dream to be the one, true powerful god (Unless you make an alliance with another god :P )

5-If you can come back, why not Nemesis?

Nemesis is DEAD. The god you are wakes up from a sleep (Hey, anyone would've been bored from helping your people out :P )

Nemesis is not dead.

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 Quoting: MJLOVER

Nemesis is not dead.

I was about to post about something like that... Can everyone make their minds up please. "Nemesis isn't dead." "Nemesis is dead." "He sounds nothing like Nemesis!" "Yeah he does, but what does that have to with anything?" Gargh! You're all hurting my head!

I repeat. Nemesis is not dead.

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Yes, you said. I think...

Nemesis has been banished to the void forever. each god is born out of desperation, they can only be born in a horrible time, so each god takes control of a crumbling and tiny empire when they are born and most are killed off straight away.