Now this doesnt count for me and all, but you guys should take a look at the beginning of the Where are all the gods thread, and the Where are all the gods. The beginning of those threads just as productive as a lot of the stuff in the Black and White & Creature isle section. It was just discussion amongst the other black and white people about the game, plenty of screenshot posting and discussion on how they play the game. I mean seriously these threads been around a looong time, and they weren't always RP threads. Cept I suppose the Neutral thread, which I guess don't count for me but some of these other oldbies you gotta give them a break.

They were originally, but they aren't anymore. Any BW discussion gave way to pure RP long ago. Personally I prefer the alignment threads being here. They're RP, they have been for a long time and chances are that they'll continue to be. This way nobody's going to go into them confused over what's going on. Besides, they belong in the RP forum. 'Tis Dero's job to move them. Or, to put it another way: a thread started out about character evolution in Fable: TLC turns into a detailed discussion of cheese sandwiches. That belongs in OT, even if it started out differently. [Edit]As for the whole post count thing, I don't really care. Even presuming that post count means anything to me, I know that my total number of posts is somewhere in the region of 7,500 even if it isn't officially listed.

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Erm, by the way, Dero, you missed one In FanFic, "Simarius and Samerius Discussion" Well think, if the threads are here, then you won't have (every page or so) posts like.

 Quoting: Hypothetical Newb

i are the most evil god ever!! i even feed villagers to my creature!!!111oneoneone so sorry all of j00 who think j00 are evil i are evil you are not

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"Effortless superiority"

 Quoting: pimp100

umm...can a mod fix the name? bad grammar! its supposed to be 'Playing a RP, there is no vowel after the a so there is no n.

The a/an rule refers to the sound of the word as pronounced, not the spelling. Hence an hour, an honest man, but a university. The initialism 'RP' is pronounced /a: pi:/, which begins with a vowel sound, hence fel's perfectly grammatical 'An RP is a role-play.' Any questions?

I hereby give this forum the 'Bludgeonman Stamp of Approval', which is a hypothetically recognised signature of worth and may or may not count for anything. It is, however, mad cool. New players, heed well fel and Lord T's words of wisdom, for they will save you from certain embarrassment. However, if in doubt, never hesitate to ask (out of character) if your next actions are appropriate. It helps to have your fellow RP'ers on MSN to get a second or third opinion.

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Sole Destroying.

 Quoting: Fyska

...how does *hits Derobrash with a stick* count as contribution to the LH community?

Because EVERYONE* should hit Dero with a stick. Regularly. It has an unseen contribution. Trust me. *bashes Dero with a stick* *Mods, Admins and girlfriends only

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Do you automatically click underlined text too?

Yes, please - adding LT's bit to my post would be excellent . The Simerius and Samerius Discussion is here: http://boards.lionhead.com/showthread.php?t=94013, and moving it now (rather than later, when I lose more posts ) would be much appreciated. Thanks again, Jamie and all the mods, for the forum. to see some decent RPs here (not that I've caught the craze or anything ).

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Ok, I've moved it Anything else while I'm here?

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 Quoting: Derobrash

Ok, I've moved it Anything else while I'm here?

Putting LT's text on the bottom of my post, so it's all together? Or just moving the post below mine?

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Oh right yeah, that. Done.

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I have no idea what I am talking about

Unfortunately for me, I have to agree with the move now. I was getting sick of the exact same thing Seemingly was talking about.

See, it was for the best. Here you can have nice solitude, away from the mess that is the other forums where people don't understand RP.

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 Quoting: fel64

Yes, please - adding LT's bit to my post would be excellent .

Yeah, good ploy to steal my righteous rep In any case, I disagree that roleplaying doesn't contribute to the forum at some extent. Keeps oldbie members around and happy. Now we'll be secluded in our RP forum, but I guess that's ok since few new people visit the B&W1 boards. The point still stands though. Fyska, "bashes Dero with a stick" has absolutely nothing to do with roleplaying. What you just said equalled putting a towel on your head and saying 'I like blowing up heathens' in a stereotyped voice, in a mosque. The difference between roleplaying and OT is that OT is for passing the time, talking about cheese sandwiches or lemon proximities, while RP is a type of multi-writer authoring. An often complex novel is written, post by post. Besides, I don't know about the newer stuff in the alignment threads but back in the day it all was focused around the world of Black & White. Whether you like it or not, the threads contain boatloads of B&W-related discussion, pictures, hints and similar. B&W-interested people can look at the first 200 posts of the threads and find all this, though the discussion is long dead now. If keeping the members happy isn't 'contributing to the community', what would the perfect community then be? Endless pages of newbies asking for tech or gameplay help? Not too sure there would be oldbies to answer their questions after a while.

I completely agree with Lord T there. It's kept a lot of oldbies around and if the fanfic forum deserves post count then these threads definitely do. Another point is that, especially in the beginning of the thread a lot of newbie help and B&W related pictures were post. By me and others. Posts that deserve counting. Fyska may be correct that there wouldn't have been such a fuzz about post count if the threads were created in a no post count forum to begin with, but the fact is that they weren't. The threads have a history other then RP and contain more then just RP. I wish we were given some advance warning or something, then we could have thought up a compromise. For example we could have closed the old threads in the B&W forum and created new ones with the same name in the RP Forum. That way the threads could have retained their place in B&W1 history and the RP could continue in the RP forum. That way everyone would have been happy. And it's not just about post count. I posted 4 other agruements in the Thread. It's just the main arguement now since convincing you to move the threads back is highly improbable.

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While its not a perfect solution Lord_T, the line has to be drawn somewhere, and having the line there means its very clean cut - I appreciate it may not be to your taste, but its the fairest way of doing it. Think about it, there are plenty of good discussions contained within the depths of OT from when it was quieter, they don't count, yet they contributed towards the community in the manner you suggest. Fan fic is borderline, but its not quite as fast paced as RP and it is solely BW related, so it remains post countable.

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Can't do anything but agreeing with LT. Great post, and full of truth. On a sidenote: I'd rep you for it but I have to spread around rep... AGAIN! This is getting so annoying... Edit: If Fan-Fiction ever becomes postcountless, I'm not even bothering to write and post here. Like half of my remaining posts (formerly a quarter of it) must have been posted there, helping others or posting my story. Besides, I'd personly be offended, seeing as how it could be described as: 'It's rubbish, it should increase your postcount.' The quality of everything is decreasing, it seems...

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I also agree, since the threads do have history and are special And still, we are very much on topic, we just spiced up the BW universe with our own imagination, and good gods and evil gods do come by and ask for help in those threads. Sometimes when we feel the urge to play BW, we take pictures and post em'. I also think that it would be as fair as it could either way, if the threads stayed in BW CI forums, newbies (who have experience with forums) would come there and ask about the game. After BW2 is released, the threads will be floaded with pictures, well, I'd flood it with pictures, as I believe that is the thread for pictures from the beggining. As much as I hate unfairness, these threads do belong in the BW CI forums, not in the RP forums. It's main purpose is to show how good, neutral and evil you are, and as said above, people will be flooding it with good, evil and neutral pictures I do however agree with Derobrash too, the threads have become mainly RP.

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If you want to make new threads for pictures, then by all means do. By the way, looking through those posts, a lot of them are invalid now anyway, the pictures don't exist.

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Why don't you move the old threads back to CI, and make new ones here? Everyone agrees to post in the new ones and carry on the storyline, while the old ones still have their post counts counting. It should leave everyone happy .

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They are RP, they don't belong in the CI place. Nor do the post counts.

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 Quoting: Derobrash

They are RP, they don't belong in the CI place. Nor do the post counts.

Could you move them back in recognition of the fact that a lot of it is more than RP, and actually relevant, and that the players have all spent a lot of time and effort on this? They're all good members of the community, and losing them over a postcount matter would be a shame. Giving them back their status would be only fair - previous wrongs have been wiped clean, so to speak. The point is that now they will post in threads here, rather than back their, with their now only-RP stuff, so justice will be served .

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I am highly against this, and yes I am aware that I've also posted this in the thread, but it'll be read by more in this thread. First, my post count has dropped about 500, very bad. Second, what do we do if, for example, me or Battle want to post Pictures? Where do we post them? Third, as Battle said, there were often newbies trying to be good that needed help, and now they'll just keep posting threads about 'How wil I b good?". Fourth, gee, I mean, we welcome people into this thread for new RP, but alot of people on these forums are total n00bs. (Not newbies, big difference.). Fifth, what do we do when Black and White 2 comes out? Create new Where Are All The God threads? Contiue posting in the old thread, which has most likely been taken over by n00bs when we were gone? Edit: Fel, I like your post. You have a pretty good idea. I don't think Dero realises how much work we've put into those posts.

They are not moving back for the sake of post counts. After the first 200-300 posts of each thread, it turns into basically either RP or some sort of war thing. Considering the threads are nearly 4000 posts long, thats about 0.5% of the thread that actually has relevance. They belong here.

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Yes, I agree, but I think it's a bad idea to move them here now (when an alternative is new threads here now), because: It'll completely alienate most oldbies on the boards and put them against the mods (for a while at least). It feels a bit ... unfair ... for a new law to punish old crimes, if you see what I mean.

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There is nothing unfair about it. The fact is, I have done the right thing, and if you lot choose to hate me for it, then go ahead. I have better things to be doing than pandering the the fact that people are upset over a slight drop of post count. Its like saying "Oh, lets put the post count back on the OT forum because ages ago where were some really valuble posts that people spent a lot of time on", "They didn't deserve to lose their post counts over past wrongs". The analogy is there, I am right, you are wrong. It stays like this.

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