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I don't get why this thing has been getting such great reviews! It was horrible!

The fact was that half of it was supposedly 'funny' scenes at Hogwarts, and they focussed on all the wrong things!

1. Weasley house being attacked? wtf! this served no purpose at all, except that Molly got all sad when the house was destroyed.

2. They did not see the diadem in the room of requirement, how are they going to find it in number seven?

3. Dumbledore and Harry did not discuss how many horcruxes there were, or what they would be.

4. They replaced the final battle between the order of the pheonix and the death eaters at Hogwarts with the weasley attack.

5. The Ginny-Harry relationship was very poorly handled, it was as if Harry had been in love with her the whole time, but he's supposed to realise it when he sees her kissing Dean (I think it was dean... )

6. Luna and Nle did not get big enough roles!

7. Tonks was very under developed, and she and Remus were just shoved together at the start of the film and we were made to assume that they loved each other.

8. There was nothing about Morope.

9. Quiditch served no purpose, even though it looked sick. After one match everyone forgot about it.

10. Harry never recieved his inheritance from Sirius, where are they going to stay while planning to infiltrate the ministry in the next building? and how will Harry get Kreacher to help them find the real locket?

11. Bill and Fleur aren't getting married, where will they stay when they rescue Olivander and where will they bury Dobby (if he even is in the film )?

12. They didn't bury Dumbledore with his wand! How will Voldemort get it from his tomb? Huh?

Disgrace! they forget everything of importance and focus on horrible 'humor' that shouldn't have made up a movie!

Don't get me wrong, the things they had were all fine and (apart from the weasley attack) but they shouldn't have been the BASIS of the film...

AND THE CAVE SCENE WAS FAR TOO SHORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup I noticed it all too, this was by far the least accurate to the books out  of all the movies. The whole weasley house being attacked was by far the stupidest thing. SO by the movies perspective the house was not protected and Voldemort could of killed Harry then or on the train. Also they did not show the new minister which is important too. Movie sucked so much.

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countdowntoxmas:

1. Weasley house being attacked? wtf! this served no purpose at all, except that Molly got all sad when the house was destroyed.

It showed how dangerous things have become and that things have stepped up a level from the last film. It also showed that the order was vulnerable to attack.

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2. They did not see the diadem in the room of requirement, how are they going to find it in number seven?

There will be two more films so it's entirely plausible that they might go back to the room of requirement in the next one - they could for example notice things in there if they were to go and help remove the vanishing chest.

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3. Dumbledore and Harry did not discuss how many horcruxes there were, or what they would be.

They did, they spoke about how they could be anything like a diary or the locket or ring etc. They also clearly knew there would be seven of them as Tom Riddle said this in the memory as well.

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4. They replaced the final battle between the order of the pheonix and the death eaters at Hogwarts with the weasley attack.

They didn't really replace it they just didn't have such a large fight at Hogwarts. It might have been cool to have the larger fight between students and Death Eaters but it did emphasize that Dumbledore was the target of the attack and the most important result.

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5. The Ginny-Harry relationship was very poorly handled, it was as if Harry had been in love with her the whole time, but he's supposed to realise it when he sees her kissing Dean (I think it was dean... )

I disagree here. I think the relationships were handled much better in the film than the books. The romance in the books was totally unrealistic angsty teenager nonsense. The handled this much better and made it believable. In the books it made way more sense for Luna and Harry to get together. The film actually made sense to have Ginny and Harry together.

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6. Luna and Nle did not get big enough roles!

Given the adaptation the film took they weren't really major characters. Extra scenes from them would have meant more scenes would have to be cut from other important areas.

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7. Tonks was very under developed, and she and Remus were just shoved together at the start of the film and we were made to assume that they loved each other.

The relationship was covered in quite a bit of detail in the last film so I don't think anything more was needed on this.

9. Quiditch served no purpose, even though it looked sick. After one match everyone forgot about it.

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11. Bill and Fleur aren't getting married, where will they stay when they rescue Olivander and where will they bury Dobby (if he even is in the film )?

Says who? Just because they didn't feature in the film doesn't mean they aren't getitng married. It could be something that happens in the next one (more likely given the goings on at their wedding).

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12. They didn't bury Dumbledore with his wand! How will Voldemort get it from his tomb? Huh?

Probably how they will start the next film I think.

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Disgrace! they forget everything of importance and focus on horrible 'humor' that shouldn't have made up a movie!

I think they did a job overall. The humour was spread throughout the film in the right quantity that it lifted the tone of the movie. Just the right mix of everything for me. The only thing missing was a real central plot that carried from start to finish but that was always going to be the case with this one which is really a primer for the next two.

It's funny when people think a movie should be exactly like the book it's based on.

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fluKe:

countdowntoxmas:

1. Weasley house being attacked? wtf! this served no purpose at all, except that Molly got all sad when the house was destroyed.

It showed how dangerous things have become and that things have stepped up a level from the last film. It also showed that the order was vulnerable to attack.

The ministry is supposes to be protecting them, but they complete ignored the ministry here. Besides, the attack didn't even do anything, there was a bit of fire, everyone ran into the field, a few curses were thrown and then everyone dissapeared..... The fact that the ministry is protecting them here is supposed to make it a shock when the ministry is taken over in the next film and they are left defenceless, otherewise they might as well have had Voldemort come and attack the weasley house in this film...

fluKe:

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2. They did not see the diadem in the room of requirement, how are they going to find it in number seven?

There will be two more films so it's entirely plausible that they might go back to the room of requirement in the next one - they could for example notice things in there if they were to go and help remove the vanishing chest.

The 'two more films' are meant to be there so that they can include EVERYTHING from the seventh book, not so they can fix the mistakes they made before!

fluKe:

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3. Dumbledore and Harry did not discuss how many horcruxes there were, or what they would be.

They did, they spoke about how they could be anything like a diary or the locket or ring etc. They also clearly knew there would be seven of them as Tom Riddle said this in the memory as well.

They knew there were seven, but they didn't talk about Riddle collecting trophies, or the fact that they were most likely famous artifacts from the Hogwarts houses. Neither did they talk about the snake... In fact I clearly remember Dumbledore saying "It could be any number of things" as if it was a portkey!

fluKe:

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4. They replaced the final battle between the order of the pheonix and the death eaters at Hogwarts with the weasley attack.

They didn't really replace it they just didn't have such a large fight at Hogwarts. It might have been cool to have the larger fight between students and Death Eaters but it did emphasize that Dumbledore was the target of the attack and the most important result.

Once again, they could have had it, but they replaced it with the Weasley attack. And why would Dumbledore leave the school unprotected?

fluKe:

countdowntoxmas:

5. The Ginny-Harry relationship was very poorly handled, it was as if Harry had been in love with her the whole time, but he's supposed to realise it when he sees her kissing Dean (I think it was dean... )

I disagree here. I think the relationships were handled much better in the film than the books. The romance in the books was totally unrealistic angsty teenager nonsense. The handled this much better and made it believable. In the books it made way more sense for Luna and Harry to get together. The film actually made sense to have Ginny and Harry together.

Every single scene with Harry and Ginny made me cringe...

fluKe:

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6. Luna and Nle did not get big enough roles!

Given the adaptation the film took they weren't really major characters. Extra scenes from them would have meant more scenes would have to be cut from other important areas.

Important areas? Nle is an important area to focus on! He's meant to become braver, and eventually kill the snake, in this movie his greatest role was as a waiter!

fluKe:

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7. Tonks was very under developed, and she and Remus were just shoved together at the start of the film and we were made to assume that they loved each other.

The relationship was covered in quite a bit of detail in the last film so I don't think anything more was needed on this.

Excuse me? There was nothing in the last film about their relationship! She was just another Order of the Pheonix member sent to help the kids at the Ministry...

fluKe:

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12. They didn't bury Dumbledore with his wand! How will Voldemort get it from his tomb? Huh?

Probably how they will start the next film I think.

Once again, the next film isn't meant to be a big bandaid that fixes all the mistakes they made previously

fluKe:

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Disgrace! they forget everything of importance and focus on horrible 'humor' that shouldn't have made up a movie!

I think they did a job overall. The humour was spread throughout the film in the right quantity that it lifted the tone of the movie. Just the right mix of everything for me. The only thing missing was a real central plot that carried from start to finish but that was always going to be the case with this one which is really a primer for the next two.

The tone wasn't meant to be lifted, this was meant to be a dark tale, Dumbledore is steadily growing weaker (and eventually dies) and people are dying everywhere!

I don't mind the stuff they did, it's just the quantities in which they did them. And I was very dissapointed with the lack of proper mourning for Dumbledore...

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deliriousstudios:

It's funny when people think a movie should be exactly like the book it's based on.

I agree with your point, as long as the movie remains true to the spirit of the book or captures the feel of it I am pretty much cool with the movies being different.  I mean look at lord of the rings, not exactly true to the books, but I felt Jackson captured the feel of the books and I very much enjoyed the movies.  I still look forward to seeing the Half Blood Prince.

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Well, if movies were exactly like the books, what would the point be? You've got the book, why not just...you know...read it and use your imagination like you're supposed to.

A example of how it's done, is Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, that has been transposed to practically every single media and it is quite different (whilst retaining a few key plot elements and the original style) from its other incarnations. And that's the way it should be, it makes alternate forms of the IP actually interesting.

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That's a point,  I agree with you.

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deliriousstudios:

Well, if movies were exactly like the books, what would the point be? You've got the book, why not just...you know...read it and use your imagination like you're supposed to.

Exactly   

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Yes, I thought so. Just watch your step or I'm totally telling.

Yep, it's not a movie makers duty to recreate the book (or comic) in a scene by scene/dialogue by dialogue manner, although you do have to keep certain key elements in mind.

The point is to create something that stays true in spirit without deviating from the original story too far.

Naturally when adapting a book you have to make though decisions and cut away ballast, because nobody except a few hardcore fans would be willing to watch a five hour version of Harry Potter (and if you tried to do it in a economical sound way not even the die hard fans would be willing to watch it anymore). The important point for a moviemaker is to create something that will work for those that read the book without boring them to death and something for those that never held a Potter in their hands without needlessly confusing them by overly focusing on stuff that is only of interest for the fans of the book.

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It’s because they have tried to blend into the world before, and people continue to disappoint them."

You're also appealing to a different audience in a movie, one that by and large might lack the imagination and patience of an avid reader. I'm ashamed/proud to say I've only ever seen a Harry Potter movie, not read the books.

That's not because I lack imagination, it's more because I want to jump on various 'let's hate Harry Potter because people are making an unreasonable fuss over it' bandwagons.

Although it seems Harry Potter might be the exception, seems be one of those where everybody I know who has seen the movie had read the book and everybody who has read the book has seen the movie. A bizarre twist of fates for all of us.

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deliriousstudios:

You're also appealing to a different audience in a movie, one that by and large might lack the imagination and patience of an avid reader. I'm ashamed/proud to say I've only ever seen a Harry Potter movie, not read the books. That's not because I lack imagination, it's more because I want to jump on various 'let's hate Harry Potter because people are making an unreasonable fuss over it' bandwagons. Although it seems Harry Potter might be the exception, seems be one of those where everybody I know who has seen the movie had read the book and everybody who has read the book has seen the movie. A bizarre twist of fates for all of us.

The books really are ,   you might wanna give them a read at some point, you might really enjoy them. I initially felt the same way you do, I just didn't care to read them. my wife persuaded me to check them out and now I have read them all.

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One of my favourite parts of it seems to be everyone else's biggest criticism: they didn't stick to those terrible books and decided to make a half decent story instead.

Oh, how I wept when I found out that The Goblet of Fire film didn't spend hours focussing on some boring gardener and Half Blood Prince didn't feature some pointless chatter between the Minister of Magic and the Prime Minister talking about politics before anything happened. Didn't they read the books at all? Don't they know that the beginnings are meant to bore the hell out of you so that only the hardcore fans remain once that's all out of the way?

What you like Undead left gaping plot holes for the next one...that movies was worst one yet...

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And what were those plotholes, exactly? No one's mentioned any that were even plotholes, everyone just seems to be upset that some stuff is going to be covered in another film.

My mother said she thought it was half finished.

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I only wrote this because I hate you.

That's one of the disappointing ways it stuck to the book.

Feeling kind a half blooded, did it?

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"Let me tell you this: if you meet a loner, no matter what they tell you, it’s not because they enjoy solitude.
It’s because they have tried to blend into the world before, and people continue to disappoint them."

I was going to post the exact same thing, but I figured it was a bit too obvious a pun. I could almost hear the groaning.

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I thought it was great, actually! They made a few.....creative changes to the story but, in my opinion, you can't really go to a HP movie expecting to get the same experience a HP book will give you. They always change things around, leave things out, alter for more drama, etc. I don't go to the HP movies and judge it by how closely it correlates with the book (anymore); the movies are like.....the books re-written. You kind of have to judge them as a series separate from the series they're meant to be about.

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Futurama is back, baby. Complete with the original cast!

I didnt read the book but I watched the film the other day. It was but I didnt understand alot of it as I didnt read the book

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Saw it, loved it!  Read 1-5 already, starting 6 today.  I did that out of order, I know, but at least this way the movie didn't disappoint me.

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Ahaha, Yes! I loved it, could have stuck more to the book though, as could the rest of em', cant wait for the next one!

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deliriousstudios:

It's funny when people think a movie should be exactly like the book it's based on.

It's also funny when people care about a movie that is based off of a fantasy world, and they could point out ALL of the flaws.

I am not a Harry Potter fan.

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I saw it last night but unfortunately I couldn't get into it. Mostly due to the thick-headed jocks sitting behind me, mocking every scene in the movie with their preppy girlfriends laughing at their own rediculous jokes non-stop. I couldn't find another seat either, since the theatre I was is was jammed packed. What the Hell happened to the ushers walking the isles, making sure no one is causing too big of a disturbance? I'm starting to hate going to the movies because of this garbage. Ironically, the children sitting in front of me were dead silent the whole movie...

Anyway, enough ranting. The movie itself was great and I especially liked the scene where Tom Riddle was inquiring to Professor Slughorn about the horcruxes. And Slughorn himself was portrayed very well by Jim Broadbent in my opinion.

Is it just me or did Dumbledore look exactly like Gandalf the Grey when retrieving the fake horcrux in the secret cave scene?

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TheBowerstoneGuard:

I saw it last night but unfortunately I couldn't get into it. Mostly due to the thick-headed jocks sitting behind me, mocking every scene in the movie with their preppy girlfriends laughing at their own rediculous jokes non-stop. I couldn't find another seat either, since the theatre I was is was jammed packed. What the Hell happened to the ushers walking the isles, making sure no one is causing too big of a disturbance? I'm starting to hate going to the movies because of this garbage. Ironically, the children sitting in front of me were dead silent the whole movie... Anyway, enough ranting. The movie itself was great and I especially liked the scene where Tom Riddle was inquiring to Professor Slughorn about the horcruxes. And Slughorn himself was portrayed very well by Jim Broadbent in my opinion. Is it just me or did Dumbledore look exactly like Gandalf the Grey when retrieving the fake horcrux in the secret cave scene?

Oh so you were the grumpy one in front of me, I'm just trying to have a time at a bad movie okay.

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