are YOU kidding? Its a f****ng video game! there arent supposed to be bugs I've never once played a game in my life where there's a glitch that doesn't let you continue playing. Think about this way, the people who got the glitch are getting pushed back by at least a week. So, it wouldn't have mattered if Lionhead pushed the game back a week because maybe they would've FIXED the 150,000 bugs and glitches and people would be ABLE to play the f****ng game. And ya Fable is just so huge with its like 5 cities and landscapes that are all the same. Not to mention their the same f****ng ones from the first game. Fable 2 sucks *** I've been waiting for this game for so long and now I can't even f****ng play it because of this stupid glitch that you morans were too stupid to fix. And ya 0.1%? are you f****ng serious? I've seen hundreds if not thousands of people posting on the internet about how this happened to them and I guarantee they are just a fraction of the people it happened to. Video games are supposed to be a break from reality and the frustrations of school, work, homework, etc. Their not supposed to make you more frustrated. Pull your *** together Lionhead, seriously.

Thousands?  Ok.  Lets assume...5000?

Assuming 1 million games sold  in it's first week or two of distribution:

5,000 = .5% * 1,000,000

Ok, .5% not .1%.  My bad.

Your argument is defeated by math.

Hey Lionhead,

If you want me to take a dump in a box and call it Fable 2 I can, I've got spare time. But if you want to make a quality, game of the year contender then merge with Epic.  I mean really, a game ending glitch on a main story line quest with NO option to have multiple save files? I've only ran into one glitch similar to the "Abbot Raping" glitch and that was the Clavicus Vile Daedric quest in Oblivion.  This, however, was a side quest and you could load a previously saved file to get around it. But no save files for a game like Fable? Did you really think your game was so perfect that people wouldn't run into something and need to reload a game?  Oh, and way to *** us all with the auto saving woodcutting

Relax people. Disappointment aside, Lionhead makes games and will, despite a lot of your posturing and complaining . It's a lot easier to bctib and complain about someone messing up your burger order, but this is a video game, with a lot more involved then you will ever see. I'm still frustrated by the issues that have arisen since before launch, but I'm not being a baby about it. Half of you want your bottle and you want it now!

We've informed them of the issue, they are (hopefully) working on fixing the issue, but they can't provide you with the patch immediately. Have some patience and play another game in the meantime. Or perhaps read a book.

For those of you who are threatening to return your Fable 2 for another game, I hear your mom calling because it's time for your nap. I'd rather play with a community of gamers who aren't going to run and cry to the playground teacher the minute they scrape their knee. Stop asking Lionhead to kiss your boo boo and grow up.

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It matter not how strait the gate,
how charges with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate;
I am the captain of my soul.
-Invictus

Fable 2 looks just like Fable on XBOX. This game sucks. I've been waiting for this game to come out and it is such a disappointment and a waste of money. The graphics look like they belong on N64. On top of the subpar graphics for this supposedly epic game that has fallen flat on it's face; the amount of glitches is ridiculous. I am stuck now because of the lack of attention to detail that Lionhead gave this game. It has the same locations with a very weak storyline. They should have fixed all of the repetitiousness that was in Fable. All of the townspeople constantly repeat there same two or three lines and it is quite annoying. The game randomly slows and it absolutely does not feel or even look like an upgrade to Fable. One of the worst parts is that it saves over the same file...how utterly stupid. The lack of depth in the characters and story is just plain lazy. The team who created this awful game that was highly anticipated needs to watch Final Fantasy 10 cutscenes and play the game on PS2! It has better gameplay graphics and the cutscenes make Fable 2 look like a joke and Fable 2 is on XBOX360!

So if and when Lionhead puts out a patch for the Monk Quest Issue, would it just be something like I log into the game and the Abbot will speak to me and let me continue the story?

I really hope Lionhead is actully reading these posts. I enjoyed Fable 2, for as long as I could actually play. Its obvious that attention to quality was lacking for whatever reason. I've heard lots of talk about DLC patches and what not but that won't help everyone. I'm tired of hearing a bunch of whining brats whose parents buy them everything complain. I purchased this game with hard earned money, and expect a working product. I don't have Xbox Live, it requires also having high speed internet and all associated charges for that. I'm sure most of the people complaning have no idea what it is to work for a living and save a long time to justify entertainment expenses or luxuries like internet, phone, and cable. This was my first experience with your development company and it' s unlikely I will ever purchase another product from Lionhead. I've never run into this massive of an issue with any other game product on any system.  I definitely will never purchase an XBOX only game again. I guess this will be one more DVD for the landfill and another lesson learned.

I agree, microsoft and lionhead should put some attention to these "isolated" issues. I understand this is a big game and some minor bugs may go unnoticed in quality checks. I got stuck inside the tomb stepping on my dog while in the water during my first hour of play, ok i considered it a minor bug, just reloaded and returned to the fun. But this abbott thing  is just restart or wait for a fix, NOT an isolated issue nor a minor bug.

Like the guy on the previous post, i worked hard to buy this stuff (console, games, broadband, live account), and the only thing i spect from it is to have some fun.
In my country is very difficult (nearly imposible) to return an opened game. Now like before with ninja gaiden i paid $60 to wait for fixes.

1save+auto save+buggy irreparable in game situations= Angry costumer using disk as frisbee

Sorry for my rudimentary english. Peace.

I love how I just restarted the game and not 20 minutes in I get stuck in between a few trees. I've never had this many problems with any decent game I've played.This game is now classified with the likes of Aquaman on XBOX and other poorly crafted games. I'm astonished with the amount of glitches and how many times the game slows or freezes. This was supposed to be THE game as far as RPGs this year and generally a game many anticipated. It looks almost the same as Fable with its blocky and boring moving graphics, but this could've been overlooked if the story was captivating and the game worked smoothly. I would be embarassed if I was part of the team that created this horse *** game. I want my $60 plus tax back.

i arrived in bloodstone and got jumped by the assassins from "the hit" quest and while fighting them i got to close to the assassin task give and i'm in perma slow motion in bloodstone and just a minute ago it perma slow motion'd me in every area i can't sprint use weapons or anything besides walk 1mph wherever i want to go it autosaved some where when it happend and can't be fixed by reloading

1) It's not an isolated issue. Lionhead should know this if they made the game. It can happen in a shitload of other places and for a shitload of other reasons.

2) If you are talking to someone like a bounty hunter job and it has an expiration date you could get screwed. I got screwed out of my game while taking a job and then it expired while the conversation was happening. And now that NPC disappeared and i;m "stuck in scene".

3) Shouldn't lionhead know this? Are they lying about the "isolated incident" or do they just seriously don't know whats going on with the game?

Test games before they come out please.

I want patch to monks quest now!!!!!!

I don't want restart the game!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRR

I think Lionhead is not only addressing the Abbot quest glitch, but several others as well...like some of the other Quest freezes (Bloodstone,etc.) as well as the "children not reacting". I'm sure they're just trying to cover as MANY bases at once instead of pleasing those right away with the Abott glitch...because who knows?We might get that one fixed ONLY to run into one of the others.

Regardless..it would be nice if Lionhead DID post updates letting us know what was going on.

Bardoon:

I think Lionhead is not only addressing the Abbot quest glitch, but several others as well...like some of the other Quest freezes (Bloodstone,etc.) as well as the "children not reacting". I'm sure they're just trying to cover as MANY bases at once instead of pleasing those right away with the Abott glitch...because who knows?We might get that one fixed ONLY to run into one of the others.

Regardless..it would be nice if Lionhead DID post updates letting us know what was going on.

I honestly wouldn't mind waiting a little longer for a more thorough patch than having to update on a fix-by-fix basis.  But yeah, it would be nice if we got a word now and then about how things are coming along.  I think most of us just want to know whether or not the patch, once applied, will work for existing characters affected by the glitch, or if it is only fixed for new heroes hereon in.

Making a new game isn't a big deal, I have 5 games going.  1 is completed aside from few a side quests.  1 of mine is stuck in childhood stage, I thought I'd stand in front of my sister when the circle turned blue.  She pushed me a bit, and I'm stuck on edge of the pad unable to move, or reload.

My female character with 9hours on her is stuck on the Hero of Will quest in the Brightwood tower at the fire scene right after the autosave.  She stood there for approximate 2-4min after the autosave, I wasn't paying attention, and now all I get is a black screen.

My ' guy' save file has a wife and kid who are non-responsive after returning from the spire my kid was grown, but is stuck where the crib was.  I had my brother kill them with his Hero.  I still got in trouble

So out of the 5 games all, save one, have 9hrs or more time on it and only 2 are bug free.  I still believe this game is the best I've ever played, its a fun game with alot of depth and enjoyable content.  Sure, I'm not happy with the bugs, with the lack of items and item selection.  I'm not satisfied with the ability to upgrade housing, or the inability to stock my house up with my equipment, or the ability to buy anything in the game and put a house there.  I'm lastly not happy that I can not get anything from another's body, or steal items off the shelf, or simply pick something up, its all 'too cosmetic' for me.

I'm never fully satisfied with any game, I always have higher expectations, but I don't let it destroy something either.  There are still so many upsides in it.  In Oblivion (a great game by the way) can you have a wife and kid?  Can you change based on choices?  Can you scar?  Can you see the world grow over a 10yr period?  I don't play alot of games, so I can't compare alot, but I do know this game is definately unique and in some of the best ways imagineable.

Back to the many saved files, I says its not a big deal to make another one, but it does suck to lose one.  I have a wife and 2 kids, and I normally work 12hrs a day for 5 days, switching shifts every other week.  I'm lucky enough to off, first on injury, then to help out with the new baby.  Although I don't get alot of time to play I've obviously have enough time to get a ways in the game.  I have also had the fortunate help of my family when I stayed the night to help my terminal mom.  Shes doesn't need a whole lot, but there are so many there wanting to hold both kids, and do things with them it gives my wife and I a huge, and much needed break.

I do not see how there are over 100hrs.  I'm sure if you wanted to explore every nook and cranny of the game, do everything, buy everything, see everything, then maybe.  But for someone like me who is satisfied with doing sidequests, some exploring, owning a town or two, completing the story, owning almost every item, and maxing my character the way I want, then its no where near 100hrs.  I did nearly all of this on my first alt in about 18hrs.  Still needs some work.

And someone compared the graphics to n64?  Please, they must have never played a n64 game.  I own one, and I have never seen a n64 graphics that were even slightly breathtaking.  The first game to ever completely captivate me with graphics is Oblivion, and even now its graphics seem a little more grey in comparison to Fable2.

There is so much more I want to say, but I'll stop now.  I'm not a huge fan of writing, nor typing.

Keyenhancer,

I've been afraid to start a new game. If I hit "new game" will it ask me if i want to overwrite or will it just automatically make a new game without getting rid of mine? I'm attached to my first character so I havent remade, even though I'm stuck at the Abbot. I don't want to accidentally delete him.


In response to the patch business,

Usually I like it when patches are just built up and fix a whole lot of things at once. However, I think in the case of GAME BREAKING problems, where you are stuck in one place permanently (like oakfield, since people are still there and can't even go back since the bridge is broken), those warrant patches as soon as they fix them instead of waiting. Big patches should be saved for the things that are irritating, or you can just pass for awhile and come back to later (A side quest problem, or marriage issue etc...). If something is so bad you can't even continue to play the game in any real sense then that warrants action as soon as possible.

If that article was true and they have fixed the problem...it should not be long before a patch is released. I really don't think they should just wait until they fix everything when they are dealing with game breakers. As soon as they can be patched they should be patched. That is just my opinion though.

BK

DrWookie:

Keyenhancer,

I've been afraid to start a new game. If I hit "new game" will it ask me if i want to overwrite or will it just automatically make a new game without getting rid of mine? I'm attached to my first character so I havent remade, even though I'm stuck at the Abbot. I don't want to accidentally delete him.

 

It WILL NOT write over your old saved file, so long as you choose a new game, and select a blank card.  As far as I know, you can only choose a blank card, if you have one.  I don't since 5games plus my brothers = 6games, and there are only 6 blank cards.

Hope this helps. 

Also in the case that you have 5 games, you can just make a new or use a old Xbox gamer profile.


Patch by the weekend would be nice. I need a break from mid-terms.

DrWookie:

Keyenhancer,


Usually I like it when patches are just built up and fix a whole lot of things at once. However, I think in the case of GAME BREAKING problems, where you are stuck in one place permanently (like oakfield, since people are still there and can't even go back since the bridge is broken), those warrant patches as soon as they fix them instead of waiting. Big patches should be saved for the things that are irritating, or you can just pass for awhile and come back to later (A side quest problem, or marriage issue etc...). If something is so bad you can't even continue to play the game in any real sense then that warrants action as soon as possible.

If that article was true and they have fixed the problem...it should not be long before a patch is released. I really don't think they should just wait until they fix everything when they are dealing with game breakers. As soon as they can be patched they should be patched. That is just my opinion though.

BK

The thing is, Fable uses the one save per hero system, so a lot of the bugs that wouldn't be game breaking otherwise (usually people just reload an earlier save and trigger the quest again) do turn into glitches that can permanently disable your character.  Offhand I can't really say which bugs qualify as mere irritations and which ones qualify as truly immediate concerns.  In open games like this one, I tend to expect little things like people walking through walls or up against each other or walking in place, but when so many of the quests can apparently go out on you at the snap of a finger, and you only get one chance to trigger them in most cases, it certainly becomes a lot harder to discern how to go about prioritizing them in terms of fixing it up.

ColonelGold:

DrWookie:

Keyenhancer,


Usually I like it when patches are just built up and fix a whole lot of things at once. However, I think in the case of GAME BREAKING problems, where you are stuck in one place permanently (like oakfield, since people are still there and can't even go back since the bridge is broken), those warrant patches as soon as they fix them instead of waiting. Big patches should be saved for the things that are irritating, or you can just pass for awhile and come back to later (A side quest problem, or marriage issue etc...). If something is so bad you can't even continue to play the game in any real sense then that warrants action as soon as possible.

If that article was true and they have fixed the problem...it should not be long before a patch is released. I really don't think they should just wait until they fix everything when they are dealing with game breakers. As soon as they can be patched they should be patched. That is just my opinion though.

BK

The thing is, Fable uses the one save per hero system, so a lot of the bugs that wouldn't be game breaking otherwise (usually people just reload an earlier save and trigger the quest again) do turn into glitches that can permanently disable your character.  Offhand I can't really say which bugs qualify as mere irritations and which ones qualify as truly immediate concerns.  In open games like this one, I tend to expect little things like people walking through walls or up against each other or walking in place, but when so many of the quests can apparently go out on you at the snap of a finger, and you only get one chance to trigger them in most cases, it certainly becomes a lot harder to discern how to go about prioritizing them in terms of fixing it up.

I do totally agree with you. I was definitely thinking more about bugs that involved side quests / optional experiences that don't bring your game to grinding halt until it is fixed (like the abbot quest). Many of the quest issues though may be related, since I believe the problem with the abbot isn't specific to the abbot (I've heard of other people walking around from quest givers and loosing the quest). I was just saying something like the abbot issue, which causes people to get stuck JUST in oakfield (and the surrounding area) is on a much higher priority then issues with wives and/or side quests (Like if there was some bug with gargoyles) that aren't necessary to play the game. That's just my opinion (I'm sure people who are experiencing some of those bugs may disagree, but at least they can stay play the majority of the game instead of wandering around the same town for eternity).

i hate oakfield now.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170935

if you cant get on this site this is what it saids:

Fable 2 will be receiving much-needed patches for its Abbot Quest and co-op bugs sometime soon, reports Kotaku. Lionhead Community Manager Sam Van Tilburgh commented that "some [bugs] (like the Abbot Quest) have been fixed already." He said that some of the issues being brought up on the forums "aren't with the game necessarily," which could be referring to the game freezing for some players. Though the patch is done, he does say "there is no news yet" concerning when it may arrive. Given that this is a game published by Microsoft Game Studios, it will probably be certified quickly.

Some buyers of the Limited Edition of the game have reported that they're missing their DLC codes for the Master Chief armor, and Van Tilburgh says that issue should be resolved tomorrow (October 2. In addition, the Lionhead Community Blog will be updating throughout the week with codes to download Fable 2 Pub Games for free. Unfortunately, it's first-come, first-served, and you'll be competing with the entire internet. So luck with that.

As bugs are being squashed, Van Tilburgh also gives valuable advice on how to report a bug. "The biggest issue is when people report a show stopping issue on our forums without enough information to reproduce it," he says. So remember, if you hit a snag, be as specific as possible.

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remember team-work is great because you can just sit around while they do the work

Add me to the ever growing list - iff the abbott quest is not patched soon, how do I go about claiming my money back? (seriously)

wow, i got that bug when i was playing co-op with a friend, nice to know i wasnt the only one

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What about rescuing charlie?