and probably as a result of ps3 price drop microsoft has now also reduced the price.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2009/aug09/08-27RedTagPR.mspx


" Beginning Aug. 28, the price of an Xbox 360 Elite console will drop by $100, now priced at just $299.99 estimated retail price (ERP) in the United States. On top of that, the Xbox 360 Pro console will now be priced at $249.99 (ERP), reflecting a price reduction of $50, while supplies last. "

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Yeah. think they've taken out the HDMI lead from the elite to cut costs as well. Curiously, if you live in the UK they've actually put the cost of the Arcade one up by £30, to £160, but the Elite is about £50 cheaper than the PS3 (from memory)

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I think overall the PlayStation is a much better system, that doesn't have so many hardware problems.

If you like RPG's then the games aren't as imo. If I had to choose I would pick the xbox for the games not the system itself but if you want something that is going to be more reliable then I would say Playstation. + its got bluray if you are into that sort of thing.

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No Biasim here.

360.
It has more games than the PS3 and thus better games, It has a huge variety and some great RPGs which I think the PS3s lack.

PS3s have free online multiplayer but one-hell-of-a-lot of kids play it. Many admit to it, The community is appalling compared to the mature 360 audience.

360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free!
If you get a PS3 and it breaks be prepared to spend a insane amount of money to fix it.
*shrug*

Fable. If you have not played fable before your 360 died go to hell, Seriously. One of the best RPGs I have ever played of the many I have played. Reccomend FALLOUT 3 aswell!

EDIT: After reading a few posts many people claim that the 360 has a really high failure rate. The chance now of a RROD on a new 360 is extremely low. Lower than picking a 100 pound note off the street.

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Your people just destroyed a hard built character with a simple stupid decision. Yes i understand the game said it was irreversible

I think you'll find it was you.

- The Bag,

Oh! And now we can get sky+dvds with quick DL+facebook+NATAL on 360.
Sky = thousands of channels for £15 a month!
Dvds are DL'd quick!
Facebook soon/now.
Natal in a couple of years: Natal will have motion tracking technology beyond that of the wii. Way beyond with more games + better graphics!

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Your people just destroyed a hard built character with a simple stupid decision. Yes i understand the game said it was irreversible

I think you'll find it was you.

- The Bag,

WoollyPenguin:

PS3s have free online multiplayer but one-hell-of-a-lot of kids play it. Many admit to it, The community is appalling compared to the mature 360 audience.

and that was when i started laughing.

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maggot:

WoollyPenguin:

PS3s have free online multiplayer but one-hell-of-a-lot of kids play it. Many admit to it, The community is appalling compared to the mature 360 audience.

and that was when i started laughing.

Been playing the 360 a couple of years no failures now.
Guess how many immature people I've met?
2.
2 people over 2 years.
I teach atm and the children chat about Nazi zombies on PS3 and chat about that guy on the PS3 they swore at etc online a few days ago.
I once played on a friends and left a game due to being mouthed off at.

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Your people just destroyed a hard built character with a simple stupid decision. Yes i understand the game said it was irreversible

I think you'll find it was you.

- The Bag,

First time i ever played online on 360 i met a little kid swearing. First time on ps3 same thing. They both got lots of stupid kids swearing and telling you how big a penis they got but i'm not even going to bother arguing with you, it's pretty clear you have already made up your mind and is a blind fanboy (and i have only read 3 of your posts) who will probably argue that every ps3 exclusive is *** and fable 2 is the greatest rpg of all time.

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maggot:

First time i ever played online on 360 i met a little kid swearing. First time on ps3 same thing. They both got lots of stupid kids swearing and telling you how big a penis they got but i'm not even going to bother arguing with you, it's pretty clear you have already made up your mind and is a blind fanboy (and i have only read 3 of your posts) who will probably argue that every ps3 exclusive is *** and fable 2 is the greatest rpg of all time.

Excuse me?
I disagree with you and you call me a fanboy and state my opinions?
I think the 360 is better, Based on my logical conclusions.
I never said it was the greatest RPG, I will award that to KOTOR/Fallout 3,
I want LBP, PS3 is not crap either just in my conclusion not as as the 360.

Please, please act maturely as right now your labelled as one of the kids who like to mouth off at people. Offense intended.

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Your people just destroyed a hard built character with a simple stupid decision. Yes i understand the game said it was irreversible

I think you'll find it was you.

- The Bag,

Oh there is so many reasons to say you're a fanboy or someone just trying to justify his pick of console. Not just the lies like

"360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free! "

You dont. RROD is got a extended warranty but after that you dont get it for free not to mention that it's only RROD that there is extended warranty on (so people actually try to melt their consoles if they get anything but a RROD to cheat MS to get their extended warranty and a replacement). Not to mention that you dont have to pay any insanse amount to get your warranty fixed everywhere, i dont know about the rules in wherever you live but if it's not my fault that it breaks in the first 2 years of owning it i have the right to get it fixed for free (paying shipping myself).

But also the need to mention stupid stuff like facebook (that you will need a gold account for i believe, correct me if wrong) that you can already use with the ps3 (and wii) browser.

Natal without mentioning that ps3 got some stupid gimmick motion controller too and then based your opnion about online and there being more kids there based on some kids talking about it where you work.

and then you telling some guy in another thread he fails because he thinks halos story got worse with each game.

Wow i shouldn't have bothered because i'm pretty sure it falls on deaf ears.

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Why is it that everyone that I have ever heard call someone a fanboy always acts like a bigger fanboy. In fact I think pc fans are the worst. If you don't agree that the pc is far better in all aspects then they claim you are a fanboy. Kinda pathetic really.

The ps3 is very impressive but it is apparently a lot harder to make a blueray game that most people think. It takes longer and it still doesn't look as as hd in most cases. Not saying it can't look better than hd. Its just really hard for them to do that. They will get better at it but it will take time.

On xbox I have heard that the new consoles have about the same failure rate as the playstation 3 right now. So the rrod problem may be over. Well have to wait and see I guess.

I will be honest I don't own a ps3 right now. The system is great, but not enough games that I am interested in to buy it right now. So for me the deciding factor was the games that interest me that are already out.

My advice don't be scared away from either system because they are both great. Just look at which games are out on both systems and make your choice based on that. You may also want to look at the games in development as well so you know what your game choices will be in the future.

I don't know much about the eye toy or natal but you might study up on those as well. Honestly I would recommend either system. I am sure that you would enjoy either one.

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Raising children is easy. Between TV and the internet kids almost raise themselves. - Homer Simpson

maggot:

Oh there is so many reasons to say you're a fanboy or someone just trying to justify his pick of console. Not just the lies like

"360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free! "

You dont. RROD is got a extended warranty but after that you dont get it for free not to mention that it's only RROD that there is extended warranty on (so people actually try to melt their consoles if they get anything but a RROD to cheat MS to get their extended warranty and a replacement). Not to mention that you dont have to pay any insanse amount to get your warranty fixed everywhere, i dont know about the rules in wherever you live but if it's not my fault that it breaks in the first 2 years of owning it i have the right to get it fixed for free (paying shipping myself).

But also the need to mention stupid stuff like facebook (that you will need a gold account for i believe, correct me if wrong) that you can already use with the ps3 (and wii) browser.

Natal without mentioning that ps3 got some stupid gimmick motion controller too and then based your opnion about online and there being more kids there based on some kids talking about it where you work.

and then you telling some guy in another thread he fails because he thinks halos story got worse with each game.

Wow i shouldn't have bothered because i'm pretty sure it falls on deaf ears.

1. Actually its free for any amount of time.

2. Any proof you can use it with PS3? And I'm stating a few attractive (to some) features.

3. The PS3 Has not got a motion controller as far as I am aware. And some kids I met there, Kids I hear talking about it... And logic.

4. I'm a bit of a fanboy for halo.

Now stop insulting me and start acting mature. It really annoys me to talk to idiots.

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Your people just destroyed a hard built character with a simple stupid decision. Yes i understand the game said it was irreversible

I think you'll find it was you.

- The Bag,

Why is it that everyone that I have ever heard call someone a fanboy always acts like a bigger fanboy. In fact I think pc fans are the worst. If you don't agree that the pc is far better in all aspects then they claim you are a fanboy. Kinda pathetic really.

The ps3 is very impressive but it is apparently a lot harder to make a blueray game that most people think. It takes longer and it still doesn't look as as hd in most cases. Not saying it can't look better than hd. Its just really hard for them to do that. So most of the time the graphics on the 360 and pc will look better that the ps3. They will get better at it, but it will take time.

On xbox I have heard that the new consoles have about the same failure rate as the playstation 3 right now. So the rrod problem may be over. Well have to wait and see I guess.

I will be honest I don't own a ps3 right now. I have played on it though. The system is great, but not enough games that would make me interested in to buy it right now, but that is just my taste in games. So for me the deciding factor, was the games that interest me that are already out.

My advice don't be scared away from either system because they are both great. Pc's ps3's and 360's are all choices depending on what games you like. Just look at which games are out on both systems and make your choice based on that. You may also want to look at the games in development as well so you know what your game choices will be in the future.

I don't know much about the eye toy or natal but you might study up on those as well. Honestly I would recommend either system. I am sure that you would enjoy either one.

Just don't get a wii. Again my personal opinion, but I don't know anyone that did not regret buying one. Not saying that some people don't like it. Just not any I know in person.

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Raising children is easy. Between TV and the internet kids almost raise themselves. - Homer Simpson

heroicalarm:

Why is it that everyone that I have ever heard call someone a fanboy always acts like a bigger fanboy. In fact I think pc fans are the worst. If you don't agree that the pc is far better in all aspects then they claim you are a fanboy. Kinda pathetic really.

Thing is i am not saying anyone are wrong for liking the 360, ps3 or wii better than the other but saying things like for example : "there is more immature kids on ps3 online" based on you hearing some kids talk about slaying zombies in a ps3 game and was saying stupid stuff online is a horrible stupid reason to like one over the other and really points to you being either a fanboy (like all the other points i posted above does too).

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WoollyPenguin:

No Biasim here. 360. It has more games than the PS3 and thus better games, It has a huge variety and some great RPGs which I think the PS3s lack. PS3s have free online multiplayer but one-hell-of-a-lot of kids play it. Many admit to it, The community is appalling compared to the mature 360 audience. 360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free! If you get a PS3 and it breaks be prepared to spend a insane amount of money to fix it. *shrug* Fable. If you have not played fable before your 360 died go to hell, Seriously. One of the best RPGs I have ever played of the many I have played. Reccomend FALLOUT 3 aswell! EDIT: After reading a few posts many people claim that the 360 has a really high failure rate. The chance now of a RROD on a new 360 is extremely low. Lower than picking a 100 pound note off the street.

You have got to be kidding me.  That is the dumbest idiotic fanboist (if that is a word) post I've ever read.

I think YOU are the most proclaimed xbox 360 fanboy yet. 


One more time....

This kid is a genious, right Maggot?




And by the way, it's the teeny boppers that buy just for consoles.

It is the die hard gamers that buy the system for what product they would like to purchase, and THEN they get the console.  It doesn't matter what console you have, it's the games you want to play that sell the console.

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WoollyPenguin:

maggot:

Oh there is so many reasons to say you're a fanboy or someone just trying to justify his pick of console. Not just the lies like

"360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free! "

You dont. RROD is got a extended warranty but after that you dont get it for free not to mention that it's only RROD that there is extended warranty on (so people actually try to melt their consoles if they get anything but a RROD to cheat MS to get their extended warranty and a replacement). Not to mention that you dont have to pay any insanse amount to get your warranty fixed everywhere, i dont know about the rules in wherever you live but if it's not my fault that it breaks in the first 2 years of owning it i have the right to get it fixed for free (paying shipping myself).

But also the need to mention stupid stuff like facebook (that you will need a gold account for i believe, correct me if wrong) that you can already use with the ps3 (and wii) browser.

Natal without mentioning that ps3 got some stupid gimmick motion controller too and then based your opnion about online and there being more kids there based on some kids talking about it where you work.

and then you telling some guy in another thread he fails because he thinks halos story got worse with each game.

Wow i shouldn't have bothered because i'm pretty sure it falls on deaf ears.

1. Actually its free for any amount of time.

2. Any proof you can use it with PS3? And I'm stating a few attractive (to some) features.

3. The PS3 Has not got a motion controller as far as I am aware. And some kids I met there, Kids I hear talking about it... And logic.

4. I'm a bit of a fanboy for halo.

Now stop insulting me and start acting mature. It really annoys me to talk to idiots.

Ho the irony... the irony.

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"IrishMorn"
If Adon and Sagat step in....ah, what the hell, I'll get drunk and join in on that one.

WoollyPenguin:

maggot:

Oh there is so many reasons to say you're a fanboy or someone just trying to justify his pick of console. Not just the lies like

"360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free! "

You dont. RROD is got a extended warranty but after that you dont get it for free not to mention that it's only RROD that there is extended warranty on (so people actually try to melt their consoles if they get anything but a RROD to cheat MS to get their extended warranty and a replacement). Not to mention that you dont have to pay any insanse amount to get your warranty fixed everywhere, i dont know about the rules in wherever you live but if it's not my fault that it breaks in the first 2 years of owning it i have the right to get it fixed for free (paying shipping myself).

But also the need to mention stupid stuff like facebook (that you will need a gold account for i believe, correct me if wrong) that you can already use with the ps3 (and wii) browser.

Natal without mentioning that ps3 got some stupid gimmick motion controller too and then based your opnion about online and there being more kids there based on some kids talking about it where you work.

and then you telling some guy in another thread he fails because he thinks halos story got worse with each game.

Wow i shouldn't have bothered because i'm pretty sure it falls on deaf ears.

1. Actually its free for any amount of time.

2. Any proof you can use it with PS3? And I'm stating a few attractive (to some) features.

3. The PS3 Has not got a motion controller as far as I am aware. And some kids I met there, Kids I hear talking about it... And logic.

4. I'm a bit of a fanboy for halo.

Now stop insulting me and start acting mature. It really annoys me to talk to idiots.

Ho the irony... the irony.

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"IrishMorn"
If Adon and Sagat step in....ah, what the hell, I'll get drunk and join in on that one.

WoollyPenguin:

No Biasim here. 360. It has more games than the PS3 and thus better games, It has a huge variety and some great RPGs which I think the PS3s lack.

I don't think this is true anymore.  Early in the PS3's life cycle it was, but since then I think the list of PS3 exclusives has surpassed or at the very least matched the 360's.

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Are you an ODST (fanboy)?

Dear God. If this guy is a teacher, the education system is in worse shape than I feared. Leave school now and get yourselves a nice cozy job in a Slavic brothel is my advice kiddies - at least that way you get a few years head start on the career ladder.

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c'mon guys enough of insulting each other or the thread dies.

Sorry, Sorry. But he was stating some rather bizarre stuff as fact

However, for the sake of clarity;

The RROD general hardware failure warranty lasts for 3 years from date of purchase AFAIK. It is not "free for any amount of time" The E74 error has recently been added under the same duration of coverage.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/microsoft-extends-warranty-on-xbox-360-e74-error

Sky on Xbox does not "= thousands of channels for £15 a month! " I believe you get Sky News for free. If you get an Xbox Live Gold account, then pay the £15 Sky subscription, you get 24 channels. You can then pay a premium to get extra ones like Sport packages and Movie packages.
More details Here

Last time I tried Facebook on the PS3 web browser, there were problems with a few of the interface buttons. I hear the Wii opera browser has the same trouble, but I've not bothered trying. Nor have I bothered trying with the PSP Web Browser. That said, Uncharted 2 integrates with Twitter for reasons entirely beyond me, and I'd be surprised if there's not a Facebook app on the PS3 sometime soon. God knows why though - people are leaving it in their droves.

The PS3 Motion Controller - which works in conjunction with the Playstation Eye to do accurate 3D tracking yadayadayada is very well documented - predicted out next spring I believe. No link, just google it.

And so on.

EDIT - And since when was More games 'thus better games' ??? Jesus, surely if the Apple App Store has taught us anything, it's that if you open your doors to a tidal wave of shite, you're soon going to be neck deep in shite. Great for the discerning gentleman who Knows What He Likes and Isn't Afraid to Pay Extra For It, not so great for others.
Quality, not quantity is the order of the day, thank you very much. Which isn't to say there aren't superb games for all three leading home consoles, of course.
*Sigh* Sorry. Ranting again...

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If you've got a 360, play the games enjoy it. If you've got a PS3, play the games enjoy it. If you've got a Wii...erm...um

I just don't understand the need to argue about this stuff, to justify your choice to the world, to try and convert people. Get both, if you can't get the one with the most games you want.

Oh, it's not enough to just own the console. You've got to talk bollocks about them as well. It's important stuff, just like supporting a Football Team and other loss-making ventures.

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WoollyPenguin:

Excuse me?
I disagree with you and you call me a fanboy and state my opinions?

No, you got called a fanboy for being a fanboy.

Please, please act maturely as right now your labelled as one of the kids who like to mouth off at people. Offense intended.

You can't tell someone to act maturely and then say you intend to insult them. In fact, everything you say seems to revolve around the fact that you and the 360 fanbase are mature whilst everyone who likes the PS3 is a little kid. Please, surely you realise how immature that is? No one who's mature says they're mature, simply because it's an immature thing to do. If you were really as mature and logical as you think then you wouldn't need to say it, it would be evident from your posts. Let's go over your posts right from the very start:

WoollyPenguin:

No Biasim here.

This instantly translates as "I'm biased so I'll try to lie about it". If you're not biased then you don't need to tell people you're not.

360.
It has more games than the PS3 and thus better games,

This is logic?

PS3s have free online multiplayer but one-hell-of-a-lot of kids play it. Many admit to it, The community is appalling compared to the mature 360 audience.

Seriously?

360: Many PS3 fanboys say that get a PS3 or get RROD. Guess what? If we get RROD/other problem its fixed "FREE", Thats right folks! Everything is free!
If you get a PS3 and it breaks be prepared to spend a insane amount of money to fix it.
*shrug*

And so you should, since if your PS3 breaks it's most likely your fault. If your 360 breaks it's Microsoft's fault, of course they're going to pay for it. Of course, if you have your 360 for any remotely acceptable amount of time for it to break then you'll have to pay for it anyway, so your point is invalid.


I would carry on in this fashion, but I hate quoting single sentences or short paragraphs at the best of times and there's really no other way to respond to anything you say. Just remember this: You are acting like a fanboy, you're not acting logically, and you're certainly not acting in a mature fashion.

The Bag:

c'mon guys enough of insulting each other or the thread dies.

This thread died 5 pages ago.

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