FableGamer4832:

Holy ***!will you people just shut the *** up about the god damn coop!Atleast you f****ng have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BLACK_JACK01:

First off, all the people telling other to stop moaning, like fullmetalpanic, f*** off into another thread and let people express their opinions.

The average person expected to be able to play as their own character and can't understand why lionhead wouldn't want this as well. The facts that you can't fight your friends and you have to share a screen in just another kick in the teeth.

If lionhead want people to stop complaining, they should come and explain to their fans the reasons why co-op isn't the way it should/could be.

This is my first post and my first time visiting here.  I discovered this thread via another site and I have to agree with the original poster (until the rant in later posts).  I loved Fable and was hyped for Fable 2, especially when it stated it had online co-op.  To hear that the co-op is accomplished with a generic character and not my true single player character is disappointing. 

I do not frequent the game sites nor the game forums to get every little detail about a game.  I read the back of the box and look at a few game review sites once it goes retail.  I assumed (yes, I know that is a bad thing sometimes) that co-op would be like what the original poster said.  Heck, even the gamestop employee is thinking the same as well as a few other customers in the store getting the game also.  I can consider myself one of many who would assume this.  I am still going to play it, but I am still disappointed by the result.  I hope this would be changed at a later date (hopefully sooner than later).

You all should not criticize the OP for his assumptions because it is a legit one.  And the fact that a moderator would have a image of purses rather than a actual answer is silly.  I can expect that from a regular person, but not from an associate of Lionhead (paid or not). 

grimeshine:

Didnt do the research. Hmmmm. "# If you go into another persons game as a guest the look of the character will be based off of your character's look. If you don't have a character of your own you'll have a generic pre-determined look to your hero. " There, straight from the feature list of the official fable 2 forums. Would you mind explaining why no one cared to correct this error?

Because it's not an error, BASED off your character's look, not your characters actual look.

Are you an ODST (fanboy)?

Woody:

Handbag anyone?

KraljDeljan:

Wow Woody you are a Joke, you'd expect a little more professionalism from someone who works for the company. Black and White, Black and White 2, Fable, Fable 2, they are all failures, and you working for a failure makes you a failure as-well.

That's not how you talk to people. You're banned.

I enjoy the co-op, it's , together with the orbs it makes the game much more dynamic. It's a design decision, a one in my opinion but I am sure some will disagree. Now if only we'd let the Hero and Henchman use the 'seduce' expression on each other, or even get married. Still, the online co-op is a nice extra.

Sam:

Still, the online co-op is a nice extra.

Fable2LAWL:

Sam he is right though lionhead said nothing about this dumb co op henchman crap, we should be able to use our own characters? And dont lie you know you want to use your own character, who wouldnt want to use the character they put hours of hours into and show it off to people? Fix the co op and i im 100% Positive this game cant be talked trash on

Disapointted to say the least. The henchmen I can just accept, but having to stay on the same screen with a bad camera, well thats just weak.

Its basically the same as GTA: San Andreas Co-Op (Weak), Though do you want to now why people didn't go and complain, and why it didn't affect reviews.

It was becuase Dan didn't go off and rant about how or revolutionary it was, actaully he didn't mention it at all. He knew that it wasn't great, He knew it was just a little extra thrown in.

Peter mentioned it all the f****ng time. Co-Op this, Co-Op that! He made it one of the key selling points of the game.  So people claiming it was an added extra, well it would of been if it wasn't brought up so much.

Well I guess Fable 2 won't forfill my Co-Op needs, Luckly I have got Saints Row 2. Lionhead need to look at that to see how Co-Op is done.

And people telling us to stop whining, please grow up. It was made out to be some revolutionary feature. BUT it wasn't! I bet you would complain if they made the expression system a plie of crap (Luckly its brillient) cosidering hats another feature made out to brillient (Again it is)

Sam:

Still, the online co-op is a nice extra.

ErodeTheSoul:

ronzanio:

is this a f****ng joke of you? are you trying to anger the fans even more?! YOU ****ING LIONHEAD ARE ONE PIECE OF STAB IN THE BACK I THINK I WONT EVEN BUY THE ****ING PIECE OF **** GAME 60 BUKS LESS FOR YOU MOTHER****ERS we trusted lionhead and they're testing us more and more and now they crossed the ****ing line and they can all die i'm serieus im REALLY ****ING DISSAPOINTED.

Hey, so that's a pretty reasonable reaction, right?

*shrug* I thought his joke was funny

grimeshine:

those of you who keep telling us to "stop whining" really need to shutup. Heres facts. We WERE misled. Thats all there is to it and you cant deny it. They told us that Co op was one of the greatest innovations that they had. Would someone mind telling me what's innovative about it? The system is a step backwards in co op. no matter what you say you cant disagree with that. The way that co op was presented was VERY unprofessional and misleading and thats why were upset. Personally, we couldnt give a *** if your not buying the game for co op, or if you are fine with using some pre generated bullshit that has no relevance to our game or our character. When im told I get to bring my character into the game at any time with no menus screens, that doesnt insinuate me having to CHOOSE a henchmen. again, no one is whining. We are shocked. can you expect us to not be? we were misled end of story. We have a right to be. we have a right to critique games and developers. Did you not forget that you paid 60 f****ng dollars for this game? Its not like the developers are doing us some huge favor by gracing us with this game. They are making millions and millions of dollars off of it. im f****ng sick of people telling me to be grateful and stop throwing stuff at the developers face. If lionhead gave me this game for free, then you wouldnt hear a word out of me.

fablier:

grimeshine:

Didnt do the research. Hmmmm. "# If you go into another persons game as a guest the look of the character will be based off of your character's look. If you don't have a character of your own you'll have a generic pre-determined look to your hero. " There, straight from the feature list of the official fable 2 forums. Would you mind explaining why no one cared to correct this error?

Because it's not an error, BASED off your character's look, not your characters actual look.

I enjoy the co-op, it's ">, together with the orbs it makes the game much more dynamic. It's a design decision, a "> one in my opinion but I am sure some will disagree. Now if only we'd let the Hero and Henchman use the 'seduce' expression on each other, or even get married. "> Still, the online co-op is a nice extra."

Trying to stay out of this but your Developer pet started the whole thing. He made a comment that should not have been made.

Talk to Woody about knowing how to talk to people, first.

By the way, co-op is not an extra. Online co-op is one of the main features of the game.

Sam:

That's not how you talk to people. You're banned.

I enjoy the co-op, it's , together with the orbs it makes the game much more dynamic. It's a design decision, a one in my opinion but I am sure some will disagree. Now if only we'd let the Hero and Henchman use the 'seduce' expression on each other, or even get married. Still, the online co-op is a nice extra.

Banning someone for saying they think all your games are failures? A bit harsh, if he'd said I was a fialure if life I wouldn't expect him to be banned, slap on the wrist maybe, but he's just another ass in the sea of asses that is the internet.

For anyone who can't see what I see I think Sam is subtly making the point that we, as gamers, would always want more. OK so we can play as our own characters, but we want them to get married and things, so they make that able to happen to, now players want to fight each other, now players can fight each other they want to be able to do something else etc.

There will ALWAYS be more a game developer can do, for one reason or another this time two different, dynamic characters wasn't viable (as the only other reason for not having it is if Lionhead didn't consider it, which I doubt, so the logical explanation is that they decided it was unworkable). Maybe next time, along with the other stuff that we, as gamers, will want.

For the sake of everyone's sanity though if a dev does read this would it be possible for Sam or someone to post a blog note just explaining why it's unworkable and if it was cut at the end of the development cycle or never worked on. It may act as flamebait in the comments section but for the sane, curious and polite of us it would be nice to know why.

Woody:

Handbag anyone?

grimeshine:

fablier:

grimeshine:

Didnt do the research. Hmmmm. "# If you go into another persons game as a guest the look of the character will be based off of your character's look. If you don't have a character of your own you'll have a generic pre-determined look to your hero. " There, straight from the feature list of the official fable 2 forums. Would you mind explaining why no one cared to correct this error?

Because it's not an error, BASED off your character's look, not your characters actual look.

oh really? Then would you like to explain to me how a henchman that every singe person has the exact same of in there game is BASED OFF YOUR CHARACTERS LOOKS? stop saying that the point was clearly made that you would be a henchman. IT WASNT. if you think it was then link me to a video that made it very clear. maybe we all have our opinions of the game, but numbers dont lie. The huge mass of people misled by peter speak for themselves

HappyNinja:

I realise you may disagree with people flipping out (lionhead), but for crying out loud, when facing a disappointed fan dont freakin' antagonise them. :?