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Portarock: Litigious:There is no choice when it comes to having a dog or not. Everyone will have a dog!
You are wrong. I think part of the reason the dog leads on off the trail is because lionhead has also given it the jog of metal detector. There needs to be some sort of GPS besides the dog because not everyone will play with it and then theres the fact that it not always be with you.
Why am i wrong? Find a modern video in which he talks about; not having a dog, killing it or abandoning it. If you can find one I'll accept that you can not have a dog.
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Litigious:Why am i wrong? Find a modern video in which he talks about; not having a dog, killing it or abandoning it. If you can find one I'll accept that you can not have a dog.
You obviously haven't been reading my threads. lol Check my GDC thread there is at least one video and one audio link in which PM says it. Warning there are story spoilers in some videos. I am surprised that members are still questioning the validity of my statements when I probably post over half of the links that are being discussed first. lol
Thank you Ralph H. Baer
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Portarock: Litigious:Why am i wrong? Find a modern video in which he talks about; not having a dog, killing it or abandoning it. If you can find one I'll accept that you can not have a dog.
You obviously haven't been reading my threads. lol Check my GDC thread there is at least one video and one audio link in which PM says it. Warning there are story spoilers in some videos. I am surprised that members are still questioning the validity of my statements when I probably post over half of the links that are being discussed first. lol
I shall watch them in the morning, thank you. Why am i still up it is 1 minute past midnight
'The word 'Impossible' does not appear in my dictionary, madam. In fact, on closer inspection, everything from geology to nebula seems to be missing' - Dirk Gently in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agancy
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TheKingofWorms: TheBowerstoneGuard:Maybe the fairy dust feature is only for players who leave their dog behind? Just a thought...
Very interesting idea! That may explain why you have never seen this fairy dust trail. Because in almost all of the videos with Fable 2 they either have the dog or are in combat.............
Quite true, but then again all of the demos were staged and don't really show off the exploring aspect of Fable 2. I'm waiting for a video that features exploration of the world and how the dog functions as the player's guide in the game, maybe then they'll show off the fairy dust feature should a video of that nature be released. Because as of now most of the functions that have been visually showcased are the lookout trigger and how the dog works in contextual combat.
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eobaggs: TheBowerstoneGuard:Maybe the fairy dust feature is only for players who leave their dog behind? Just a thought...
It's not a fairy dust feature, it's a bread crumb trail.  But, anyways, I'm not too sure if that would happen, as in a interview PM says something like that the dog will be trying to lead you off of the trail, so there has to be a trail to start with I suppose. Bleh, I think I'll just wait untill I see what it actually is like before I make anymore comments on it. ![Speechles [:zpeech:]](/emoticons/speechless.gif)
I'm calling it the "fairy dust feature" because that is apparently how it appears in the game according to IGN. It could be called one or the other anyway. ![Smoker [:zmoker:]](/emoticons/smoker.gif)
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/854/854373p1.html
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If the bread crumb feature really is like 'fairy dust' them im against it, but if its more subtle then i suppose it would be alright. Would be better if there was just an on/off button, or a slider changing its visibility.
I had a few ideas that could substitute it: my first idea is to 'activate' a quest which will then tell your dog which quest you want to do, and he will lead you to the objective, my second idea is just to have sign posts showing where each road leads to, and the post you want to follow will be slightly brighter, or outlined.
But again, non of us have witnessed the feature, so we cant tell what its going to be like at all, so id have to admit, this is kind of pointless, and im just contributing to it.
But if the feature really is this bad, im sure LH will see the public outcry and change the mechanic, because im sure the game wont be out untill 3rd quarter, and lets not turn this into a 'release date' thread because of my comment
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03-02-2008, 5:56 |
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Portarock: Litigious:Why am i wrong? Find a modern video in which he talks about; not having a dog, killing it or abandoning it. If you can find one I'll accept that you can not have a dog.
You obviously haven't been reading my threads. lol Check my GDC thread there is at least one video and one audio link in which PM says it. Warning there are story spoilers in some videos. I am surprised that members are still questioning the validity of my statements when I probably post over half of the links that are being discussed first. lol
Doesn't every body start with a dog, i'm about sure everybody does?
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03-02-2008, 11:13 |
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sCM redruM:
Did you even read my post??
no of course i didn't... did you read mine? Please stop being so patronising, i'm not four years old. The reason i "couldn't be bothered" to follow up on fablier's post is that while it was an interesting point of view i hadn't got round to posting yet.
What I was saying was that if the dog does only one job at a time i.e you use a "toggle button that you [use] to go between them" then you might not notice a silver key or something of interest that the dog might otherwise have shown you because it is only leading you to the quest. If it is only leading to points of interest then you have no idea where you are going. Having two things to do two jobs allowsyou to go to your quest and discover points of interest on the way. If you were toggling you would have to stop and toggle it every ten meters or so to check for items etc.
This is my view, please try not to have a fit this time and start calling me an idiot for having an opinion o.k.?
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Omle:
What I was saying was that if the dog does only one job at a time i.e you use a "toggle button that you [use] to go between them" then you might not notice a silver key or something of interest that the dog might otherwise have shown you because it is only leading you to the quest. If it is only leading to points of interest then you have no idea where you are going. Having two things to do two jobs allowsyou to go to your quest and discover points of interest on the way. If you were toggling you would have to stop and toggle it every ten meters or so to check for items etc.
This is my view, please try not to have a fit this time and start calling me an idiot for having an opinion o.k.?
So what would you do without the dog?? How would you ever notice those keys without a dog barking at them?? Looks like you're completely lost without the dogs help, OH WHAT SHALL WE DO??
I don't know, maybe look for the stuff ourselves?? Maybe instead of running and looking straight ahead, you could try and notice things...
I'm sorry, would you like an 'Easy Button' from Staples sent to your door with a copy of Fable 2, so you can defeat Lucien before you even unwrap the game?? ![Huh? [:^)]](/emoticons/emotion-18.gif)
As for Porta's question,
Portarock: sCM redruM while I do like the toggle idea better then dust, what about when/if you don't have the dog?
Sorry I didn't respond earlier man, I was waiting for someone to ask the opposite question that you asked, because both get the same answer...You have to do it on your own...
"How will you notice things and find treasures without the dog??"
Same rules apply to
"How will you get around and explore without the dog??"
Also, since the world is more open, you can press select, look at the big map and find your location the ol' fashion way...
I miss those NES days, where you had a big map that came with the game and you had to look at in order to find your way around...goD those days were entertaining, immersed you even more in the game since you're doing all the navigating...
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Has anyone thought that this may be left over from before the dog was implemented? Or that maybe when showing the game off they wanted an easier way to navigate quickly to things? It may well not appear in the final game at all. As for asking how we'd do anything without the dog, well we did fine in the original Fable. I bet I'm not the only one who turned the Minimap down so it was less intrusive and just played by exploring on my own.
Sweetest moment in the game? My dog came back from the dead to help me open the Rookridge Demon Door. I fed him a snack and he followed me to see what the treasure was. When I left, he disappeared, having helped his master out one final time.
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03-02-2008, 18:30 |
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sCM redruM: Portarock:sCM redruM while I do like the toggle idea better then dust, what about when/if you don't have the dog?
Sorry I didn't respond earlier man, I was waiting for someone to ask the opposite question that you asked, because both get the same answer...You have to do it on your own...
"How will you notice things and find treasures without the dog??"
Same rules apply to
"How will you get around and explore without the dog??"
Also, since the world is more open, you can press select, look at the big map and find your location the ol' fashion way...
I miss those NES days, where you had a big map that came with the game and you had to look at in order to find your way around...goD those days were entertaining, immersed you even more in the game since you're doing all the navigating...
Is that balanced though? What if only will users got GPS would you still think the same way?
Thank you Ralph H. Baer
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