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Armor?
Last post 07-29-2008, 14:59 by Wyvvie. 29 replies.
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07-28-2008, 19:55 |
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07-28-2008, 20:06 |
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in regards to the technology known so far armour would make sense still.
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captainXdaithi
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think about real life when gunpowder came into popularity... all knights and armor was dropped, because it didn't stop bullets, so it was better to stay light and fast to evade shots... and as a consequence, swords evolved from long swords and claymores into rapiers.... and knights on horseback became pistol wielding dragoons. so if theirs armor, it will most likely NOT be plate armor or chainmail, maybe studded leather. and if there is plate, my character will not be wearing it, because its retarded and would kill the atmosphere...
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07-28-2008, 20:18 |
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almity_1
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captainXdaithi:think about real life when gunpowder came into popularity...
all knights and armor was dropped, because it didn't stop bullets, so it was better to stay light and fast to evade shots... and as a consequence, swords evolved from long swords and claymores into rapiers.... and knights on horseback became pistol wielding dragoons.
so if theirs armor, it will most likely NOT be plate armor or chainmail, maybe studded leather.
and if there is plate, my character will not be wearing it, because its retarded and would kill the atmosphere...
Nah... I doubt it would kill the atmosphere, LH wouldn't let it, but I think your right, It probobally would be studded leather. Unless its magic metal armour that repels bullets. ![Stick out tongue [:P]](/emoticons/emotion-4.gif)
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Tom_ketchum
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The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.
In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.
In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.
got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans
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07-28-2008, 21:05 |
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clark1250
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Tom_ketchum:
The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.
In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.
In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.
got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans
Thanks for the clue that makes me like the game even more than I allready did.
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07-28-2008, 21:15 |
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Tom_ketchum
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clark1250: Tom_ketchum:
The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.
In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.
In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.
got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans
Thanks for the clue that makes me like the game even more than I allready did. ![Smily [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
im hapy to help lion head out
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07-28-2008, 23:03 |
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clark1250
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Tom_ketchum: clark1250: Tom_ketchum:
The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.
In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.
In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.
got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans
Thanks for the clue that makes me like the game even more than I allready did. ![Smily [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
im hapy to help lion head out
Me two when they don't get angry at me but still they will allways yell at you for something even when it helps. But very nice of you to help them.
Mathew 17:20 Have faith the Size of a Mustard seed and a mountain top shall move. But Demo's wont come out.

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07-29-2008, 5:33 |
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gnomeslayer
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I hope there is some heavy armor at least a curaiss if there is only studded lether I will ge sooo pissed I hate when people start talking when armor went out of fashion in our world this is Albion the world where hobbes, trolls, undead and balvarines exsistand don´t you agree with that a plate armor would protect ![G o o d [Good]](/emoticons/g_o_o_d.gif) against balvarine claws or hobbe axes or the bite of an undead. people tend to forget about this and I don´t want Fable to become to realstic its supposed to be Unrealistic the name even says that FABLE its supposed to be fairytale-ish.
Night's eternal strength, sword's cold Clarity of moon's calm light, winter's pale shade Tear your heart, tear your soul, sun's blackness I am the slave of the night!
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07-29-2008, 7:38 |
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calk666
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almity_1: captainXdaithi:think about real life when gunpowder came into popularity...
all knights and armor was dropped, because it didn't stop bullets, so it was better to stay light and fast to evade shots... and as a consequence, swords evolved from long swords and claymores into rapiers.... and knights on horseback became pistol wielding dragoons.
so if theirs armor, it will most likely NOT be plate armor or chainmail, maybe studded leather.
and if there is plate, my character will not be wearing it, because its retarded and would kill the atmosphere...
Nah... I doubt it would kill the atmosphere, LH wouldn't let it, but I think your right, It probobally would be studded leather. Unless its magic metal armour that repels bullets. ![Stick out tongue [:P]](/emoticons/emotion-4.gif) ![Wink [;)]](/emoticons/emotion-5.gif)
he is right, the technology wheel is because of the invention of the bow and arrow they made plate arour, and because of plate armour they made the pistol, because of the pistol they have kevlar. so its just keeping up with the time and era, and if you know peter M you know there is going to be some sick looking armour in the game already so dont worry about any plate stuff.
Duh...
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07-29-2008, 8:40 |
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Wyvvie
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Actually, plate did stop bullets for the most part. Mobility wasn't too much of an issue either. Knights were usually trained from their teens so they would develop the endurance and strength to do most common tasks without the armor being much of a hindrance. There were two main reasons it was abandoned. If they were shot, they'd usually fall. After that, they were very lucky if they got up before being trampled or had a sword stuck through one of the joints in the armor. The second reason was cost. Since they usually died after they got shot, it wasn't worth the cost. Oh, and the closest thing to studded leather armor that's actually an improvement on leather armor is a Brigandine. Adding studds to leather isn't very useful and can damage the stitching of the leather.
And this has been a rant from a former renaissance fair nerd ![Stick out tongue [:P]](/emoticons/emotion-4.gif)
"Half of the American people have never read a newspaper. Half never voted for President. One hopes it is the same half." "I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts. "
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