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  •  07-28-2008, 19:55 2988204

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    Armor?

    in every screenshot and video i see of fable 2, the characters are all wearing coats and boots and a bunch of stuff that looks like cloth. personally i like the new look of the clothes. but i was wondering if there is going to be any of the same plate or mail armor in the game?
  •  07-28-2008, 20:02 2988211 in reply to 2988204

    Re: Armor?

    its 500 years in the future there shouldent be any heavy armor but i love heavy and its still not confirmed

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  •  07-28-2008, 20:06 2988218 in reply to 2988211

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    in regards to the technology known so far armour would make sense still.
  •  07-28-2008, 20:10 2988224 in reply to 2988218

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     I myself am a huge fan of plate armors. And not to be a jerk, but use the search bar in the top left corner, there are numerous threads on this already. This helps reduce multiple topics and keep the forums clean, thanks! Wink [;)]




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  •  07-28-2008, 20:11 2988226 in reply to 2988218

    Re: Armor?

    Well, there might be like 1 plate/metal armour but I doubt there will be much, weve only seen about 5 different costumes so who knows, but personally...I doubt there will be much, I mean if there was gonna be, the Masterchief armour would of been metal, whilst it only had metal elbow and knee padsSad [:(]

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  •  07-28-2008, 20:12 2988227 in reply to 2988218

    Re: Armor?

    think about real life when gunpowder came into popularity...

    all knights and armor was dropped, because it didn't stop bullets, so it was better to stay light and fast to evade shots... and as a consequence, swords evolved from long swords and claymores into rapiers.... and knights on horseback became pistol wielding dragoons.

    so if theirs armor, it will most likely NOT be plate armor or chainmail, maybe studded leather.

    and if there is plate, my character will not be wearing it, because its retarded and would kill the atmosphere...

  •  07-28-2008, 20:18 2988234 in reply to 2988227

    Re: Armor?

    captainXdaithi:
    think about real life when gunpowder came into popularity...

    all knights and armor was dropped, because it didn't stop bullets, so it was better to stay light and fast to evade shots... and as a consequence, swords evolved from long swords and claymores into rapiers.... and knights on horseback became pistol wielding dragoons.

    so if theirs armor, it will most likely NOT be plate armor or chainmail, maybe studded leather.

    and if there is plate, my character will not be wearing it, because its retarded and would kill the atmosphere...


    Nah... I doubt it would kill the atmosphere, LH wouldn't let it, but I think your right, It probobally would be studded leather. Unless its magic metal armour that repels bullets.Stick out tongue [:P]Wink [;)]

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  •  07-28-2008, 20:20 2988238 in reply to 2988234

    Re: Armor?

    I think it would be nice just to see bits and pieces of some metal armor here and there.

    Like a single metal pauldron on some nice leather armor or something of that kind.




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  •  07-28-2008, 20:23 2988243 in reply to 2988227

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    Not exactly see Platemail was droped due to the fact that it cost way to much to produce in mass numbers and the moblity of the army was drasticly slowed down but the armor was bulletproof but it would make the troops tired real quickly Chainmail had been abandon but not plate if there is armor in the game it sould look like what the spainish was using around the same time i think maybe a cuirass should be inthe game it was still used until the 18 century by that time it was only used by field marshalls tho
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  •  07-28-2008, 20:25 2988247 in reply to 2988243

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    OMG its a Fantasy game, w/ magic and why in  the world would there not be armor? Well I guess we are just gonna have to wait and see, cause threads about this tend to pop up frequently and everybody argues.
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  •  07-28-2008, 20:26 2988248 in reply to 2988204

    Re: Armor?

    the_pillow:
    in every screenshot and video i see of fable 2, the characters are all wearing coats and boots and a bunch of stuff that looks like cloth. personally i like the new look of the clothes. but i was wondering if there is going to be any of the same plate or mail armor in the game?
    I hope so but if they do I want some plate mail that does not make you E v i l [Evil]. I personaly hope there are cloaks the hero can wear.
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  •  07-28-2008, 20:26 2988249 in reply to 2988204

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    The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.

    In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of G o o d [Good] quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate G o o d [Good] plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.

    In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.

    got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans


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  •  07-28-2008, 20:35 2988253 in reply to 2988249

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    Try using the search engine

    Stop making posts about armour. There are already numerous posts asking the exact same question. Now to answer the question YET AGAIN! There will be heavy armour this I can bet you. But alot of people think it will be like Fable 1, because they are only intrested in Medevial times. The armour will strongly resemble Spanish Conquestador armours, I think. Here are some pictures of what I strongly believe we will see in Fable 2. Of course I also think, we will see some Medevial armour as some relics or somthing.

    http://www.phschool.com/atschool/ss_web_codes/images/spanish_conquistador_statue.jpg

    http://www.ljn.brown.btinternet.co.uk/04illo_hist_cortezandtroops_lowres.jpg

    http://www.mb-miniatures.com/images/for_sale/conquistador%20Marion%20Poste%20Militaire.jpg


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  •  07-28-2008, 20:37 2988254 in reply to 2988253

    Re: Try using the search engine

    Ninja51:

    Stop making posts about armour. There are already numerous posts asking the exact same question. Now to answer the question YET AGAIN! There will be heavy armour this I can bet you. But alot of people think it will be like Fable 1, because they are only intrested in Medevial times. The armour will strongly resemble Spanish Conquestador armours, I think. Here is a picture of what I strongly believe we will see in Fable 2

    http://www.phschool.com/atschool/ss_web_codes/images/spanish_conquistador_statue.jpg

    http://www.ljn.brown.btinternet.co.uk/04illo_hist_cortezandtroops_lowres.jpg

    http://www.mb-miniatures.com/images/for_sale/conquistador%20Marion%20Poste%20Militaire.jpg



    I dont think that was very necessary. I already informed him of this in a polite manner, true many posts are already made about this, but most have all but dissapeared.




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  •  07-28-2008, 20:57 2988269 in reply to 2988204

    Re: Armor?

    there probably is, they just want us to look at the new clothes and new things they're putting into the game, instead of just pics with plate armor, but don't get me wrong, i love walking around in full plate armor with a chainmail helmet wreaking havoc

  •  07-28-2008, 21:05 2988280 in reply to 2988249

    Re: Armor?

    Tom_ketchum:

    The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.

    In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of G o o d [Good] quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate G o o d [Good] plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.

    In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.

    got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans

    Thanks for the clue that makes me like the game even more than I allready did.Smily [:)]
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  •  07-28-2008, 21:15 2988289 in reply to 2988211

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    Re: Armor?

    I doubt there will be armour or we most likely would have seen it by now.


  •  07-28-2008, 22:56 2988398 in reply to 2988280

    Re: Armor?

    clark1250:
    Tom_ketchum:

    The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.

    In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of G o o d [Good] quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate G o o d [Good] plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.

    In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.

    got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans

    Thanks for the clue that makes me like the game even more than I allready did.Smily [:)]
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  •  07-28-2008, 23:03 2988408 in reply to 2988253

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    Re: Try using the search engine

    Ninja51:

    Stop making posts about armour. There are already numerous posts asking the exact same question. Now to answer the question YET AGAIN! There will be heavy armour this I can bet you. But alot of people think it will be like Fable 1, because they are only intrested in Medevial times. The armour will strongly resemble Spanish Conquestador armours, I think. Here are some pictures of what I strongly believe we will see in Fable 2. Of course I also think, we will see some Medevial armour as some relics or somthing.

    http://www.phschool.com/atschool/ss_web_codes/images/spanish_conquistador_statue.jpg

    http://www.ljn.brown.btinternet.co.uk/04illo_hist_cortezandtroops_lowres.jpg

    http://www.mb-miniatures.com/images/for_sale/conquistador%20Marion%20Poste%20Militaire.jpg

    haha sorry, im kinda new to the forums. Smily [:)]

  •  07-29-2008, 5:08 2988661 in reply to 2988398

    Re: Armor?

    Tom_ketchum:
    clark1250:
    Tom_ketchum:

    The quality of the metal used in armour deteriorated as armies became bigger and armour was made thicker, necessitating breeding of larger cavalry horses. If during the 14-15th centuries armour seldom weighed more than 15kgs, than by the late 16th century it weighed 25kg[10]. The increasing weight and thickness of late 16th century armour therefore gave substantial resistance.

    In the early years of pistol and arquebuses, firearms were relatively low in velocity. The full suits of armour, or breast plates actually stopped bullets fired from a modest distance. The front breast plates were, in fact, commonly shot as a test. The impact point would often be encircled with engraving to point it out. This was called the "proof". Armour often also bore an insignia of the maker, especially if it was of G o o d [Good] quality. Crossbow bolts, if still used, would seldom penetrate G o o d [Good] plate, nor would any bullet unless fired from close range.

    In effect, rather than making plate armour obsolete, the use of firearms stimulated the development of plate armour into its later stages. For most of that period, it allowed horsemen to fight while being the targets of defending arquebuseers without being easily killed. Full suits of armour were actually worn by generals and princely commanders right up to the second decade of the 18th century. It was the only way they could be mounted and survey the overall battlefield with safety from distant musket fire.

    got this from wiki may provide hope for plate armour fans

    Thanks for the clue that makes me like the game even more than I allready did.Smily [:)]
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  •  07-29-2008, 5:33 2988722 in reply to 2988661

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    I hope there is some heavy armor at least a curaiss if there is only studded lether I will ge sooo pissed I hate when people start talking when armor went out of fashion in our world this is Albion the world where hobbes, trolls, undead and balvarines exsistand don´t you agree with that a plate armor would protect G o o d [Good] against balvarine claws or hobbe axes or the bite of an undead. people tend to forget about this and I don´t want Fable to become to realstic its supposed to be Unrealistic the name even says that FABLE its supposed to be fairytale-ish.
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  •  07-29-2008, 7:38 2988835 in reply to 2988234

    Re: Armor?

    almity_1:
    captainXdaithi:
    think about real life when gunpowder came into popularity...

    all knights and armor was dropped, because it didn't stop bullets, so it was better to stay light and fast to evade shots... and as a consequence, swords evolved from long swords and claymores into rapiers.... and knights on horseback became pistol wielding dragoons.

    so if theirs armor, it will most likely NOT be plate armor or chainmail, maybe studded leather.

    and if there is plate, my character will not be wearing it, because its retarded and would kill the atmosphere...


    Nah... I doubt it would kill the atmosphere, LH wouldn't let it, but I think your right, It probobally would be studded leather. Unless its magic metal armour that repels bullets.Stick out tongue [:P]Wink [;)]


    he is right, the technology wheel is because of the invention of the bow and arrow they made plate arour, and because of plate armour they made the pistol, because of the pistol they have kevlar. so its just keeping up with the time and era, and if you know peter M you know there is going to be some sick looking armour in the game already so dont worry about any plate stuff.

    Duh...
  •  07-29-2008, 8:40 2988858 in reply to 2988227

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    Re: Armor?

    Actually, plate did stop bullets for the most part. Mobility wasn't too much of an issue either. Knights were usually trained from their teens so they would develop the endurance and strength to do most common tasks without the armor being much of a hindrance. There were two main reasons it was abandoned. If they were shot, they'd usually fall. After that, they were very lucky if they got up before being trampled or had a sword stuck through one of the joints in the armor. The second reason was cost. Since they usually died after they got shot, it wasn't worth the cost. Oh, and the closest thing to studded leather armor that's actually an improvement on leather armor is a Brigandine. Adding studds to leather isn't very useful and can damage the stitching of the leather.

    And this has been a rant from a former renaissance fair nerd Stick out tongue [:P]


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  •  07-29-2008, 14:07 2989118 in reply to 2988858

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    WHO the **** cares about reality, are you stupid enough to think Fable is actually an realistic game? It's a ''FANTASY roleplaying game'' for gods sake.

    I'm starting to wonder if we'll see a new version of snow white in a few years sitting behind her PC wearing jeans, sneakers etc, chatting with her friends.
  •  07-29-2008, 14:12 2989121 in reply to 2989118

    Re: Armor?

    Master25:
    WHO the **** cares about reality, are you stupid enough to think Fable is actually an realistic game? It's a ''FANTASY roleplaying game'' for gods sake.

    I'm starting to wonder if we'll see a new version of snow white in a few years sitting behind her PC wearing jeans, sneakers etc, chatting with her friends.
    Exactly. Last I checked, Final Fantasy still had sword wielding fireball blasting generic teenagers running around amidst guns and starships. I'd personally like to see some sort of heavy armor, plate armor-ish, but I want armor that seperates itself from the first game. I don't want my hero to look exactly like he did in Fable 1. If I did, I'd just...well, I'd just play Fable 1 instead.



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