see this is where it goes WEIRD. why WHY would you not want the clothing you express yourself and the DEMON or HALO you have but instead a PRE-SET henchmen. would it not be simple to clone you character so you can interact with other heros?



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and god knows they are gunna develop more Updates... as they rushed the multi coop

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is that couch co-op or online??

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well as of right now we dont know what the patch does exactly...

but BOTH (only skills?)

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It could get confusing to have 2 characters with the exact same powers and weaponry so I geuss they went with the random henchman thing

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Little_Sparrow:

It could get confusing to have 2 characters with the exact same powers and weaponry so I geuss they went with the random henchman thing

No. They did it because they are terrible programmers.

that makes...no sense.

"It could get confusing to have 2 characters with the exact same powers and weaponry so I geuss they went with the random henchman thing "

People come up with some really stupid reasons for the whole crap co-op thing....

 

Listen, you can do it in Saints Row2, have your own unique Characters online in Co-op... There really is nothing better than showing your own creation off... They need to sort this out... No -one wants to play as a GENERIC HENCHMAN!!! And dont anyone on this forum start kissin lionheads bum defending it, saying that its better to play like that... Its simply not true..

 if they dont patch this for online, then this will be the conversation between two friends ..

" Hey checkout my hero...!! Join my Game bud... OK!! " Then after an hour of taggin along as some crap generic henchman... " Hey! Let me show you my hero!! Let me quit and load up my game.. OK!!" So the other friend loads up his game and invites him in.. Then after an hour of playing some generic henchman, player 1 thinks "Hey! I wanna see my own hero" .. So player 1 and player 2 both resign to their own games, as they would rather play as the character they created! 

The full co-op experience is but a dream to these two friends, and as they cannot truely share, Fable 2 becomes a largely solo affair!

Sort it out Lionhead !!

If its a technical reason why its not possible, then release a notification and people will stop bitching.

 

Ps... I hope online co-op aint tethered... like couch co-op thats another grievance i have

in rainbowsix vegas 2 you could co op your own unique character
Its really not that hard
Im sorry but that really wasn't a clever decision to not allow people to use their hero
I mean COME ON lol seriously

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Fable 2 for sure is a great game but I feel sorry for Lionhead.
They have spent so much time and love in making this game. Everything would be perfect if not the co-op flaw and the fact that you can spam slowtime whole game (no mana cost nor cooltime) which makes fights too easy.

I agree the generic henchmen is crap and Id like to be able to use my own hero as it will be abit of a downer.
Sounds weird but Id feel bad having a friend not being able to use their hero they spent all that time making and Id hate not being able to use mine in a friends world.
But I like the sharing a screen as it stops someone wandering off and accidently messing up your world.

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Two questions:

Can you fight your friend in online co-op? And, do you have to stay on the same screen in online co-op?

BLACK_JACK01:

Two questions:

Can you fight your friend in online co-op? And, do you have to stay on the same screen in online co-op?

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bigbluelion:

Everything would be perfect if not the co-op flaw and the fact that you can spam slowtime whole game (no mana cost nor cooltime) which makes fights too easy.

Yeah, the coop part kinda sucks but hey, some thing is better than no thing.

As for spamming the world with slow time...

I saw that in a review and I was kinda pissed that it was a 'flaw with the game'. It's all up to the players choice.

Sure you can sit there and slow down time the entire game and it may get boring. You know what, that's YOUR choice, not the developers. Slow time was added to give you that extra bit of time to charge up a more powerful spell or chain together a series of attacks. It was never intended as a crutch to get players to go through the game.

I'll admit I used it... ALOT in The Lost Chapters taking out the last boss, but I was also a will user with absolutely no health upgrades. That was a fun time through. Mainly used it there and taking out the rock trolls in the arena, could have used it in every encounter but I made the choice not to. 

BLACK_JACK01:

Two questions:

Can you fight your friend in online co-op? And, do you have to stay on the same screen in online co-op?

on the ign review it says you cannot fight them, and that you're both on the same screen, well for couch co op, and the camera angles are bad with couch co op... i dunno you should check out their review it talks about it.

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morgan_302:

bigbluelion:

Everything would be perfect if not the co-op flaw and the fact that you can spam slowtime whole game (no mana cost nor cooltime) which makes fights too easy.

I'll admit I used it... ALOT in The Lost Chapters taking out the last boss, but I was also a will user with absolutely no health upgrades. That was a fun time through. Mainly used it there and taking out the rock trolls in the arena, could have used it in every encounter but I made the choice not to. 

Yeah I tended to use it just on rock trolls too. I agree with you that it's the users choice too! If people want to use to win easy then yea that's up to them! Doesn't affect everyone else!

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anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational
thinking, but when you're and crazy, oooh,
oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

LaMOi:

"It could get confusing to have 2 characters with the exact same powers and weaponry so I geuss they went with the random henchman thing "

People come up with some really stupid reasons for the whole crap co-op thing....

 

Listen, you can do it in Saints Row2, have your own unique Characters online in Co-op... There really is nothing better than showing your own creation off... They need to sort this out... No -one wants to play as a GENERIC HENCHMAN!!! And dont anyone on this forum start kissin lionheads bum defending it, saying that its better to play like that... Its simply not true..

 if they dont patch this for online, then this will be the conversation between two friends ..

" Hey checkout my hero...!! Join my Game bud... OK!! " Then after an hour of taggin along as some crap generic henchman... " Hey! Let me show you my hero!! Let me quit and load up my game.. OK!!" So the other friend loads up his game and invites him in.. Then after an hour of playing some generic henchman, player 1 thinks "Hey! I wanna see my own hero" .. So player 1 and player 2 both resign to their own games, as they would rather play as the character they created! 

The full co-op experience is but a dream to these two friends, and as they cannot truely share, Fable 2 becomes a largely solo affair!

Sort it out Lionhead !!

If its a technical reason why its not possible, then release a notification and people will stop bitching.

 

Ps... I hope online co-op aint tethered... like couch co-op thats another grievance i have

I have a feeling many many people will have this conversation...
I myself was quite exited when i found out that there was going to be a CO-OP option in the game.. and considering most games that have custom characters allow you to use your own customs in multiplayer or co-op... i figured that HEY !!! That might make this game quite interesting !!! but to start reading all this stuff about lack of customs in the co-op mode is gonna make me not want to play the co-op at all !!!

Hopefully there just doing this as a tease... and soon they will give us some DLC allowing us to take our Customs into a Co-op game !!!

cant wait to get the hell out of work and pick up a copy !!!

Cheers !!!

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Don't bag on Lionhead, at least they gave us Co-op.

They could have easily not put this feature in.

 

P.S. Your title is wrong. Co-op implies that it uses "multiple people"

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What i don't get is why they hyped up the whole unique character concept. Whats the point of it now you dont have to heros together so who cares if your unique or not since you dont see both heroes on screen at once. I am Sorry LH but you failed again. Hopefully you will fix the co-op soon.

People complaining in here have nothing better to do.

Shut up and just play the damn game...or find a new hobby.

I've seen the henchmen you can pick and some look pretty cool.
And personally I don't even mind it.

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Only when the last tree
Has been cut down
And the last river
Has dried to a trickle
Will man realise
That we cannot eat money
And reciting old proverbs
Makes you sound like a twat
-Banksy

I do mind it.

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Yeah, it's pretty irritating. I would be happy if we could at least wear our heroes clothes instead of a completely generic character. The weapons thing doesn't bother me.

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"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain

They messed with co-op.

I am really dissappointed. it was the most interesting feature to me... it is always is.

FullMetalPanic:

People complaining in here have nothing better to do.

Shut up and just play the damn game...or find a new hobby.

I've seen the henchmen you can pick and some look pretty cool.
And personally I don't even mind it.

People have a right to voice their opinions on things that matter to them.
The fact they are complaing must say that this game means a lot to them.
If you dont like the complaing then dont read the thead. With the topics title you would of known it would be someone voicing an opinion of disappointment with something in the game.
I don't mean this to be offensive but one of my favourite sayings applies well here.
"Who's more of an idiot, the idiot or the person that follows the idiot"

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Having the world dynamically respond to two potentially contrasting characters would be very difficult, and likely cause at least more than a few ugly bugs.  Say, a person cheers as you walk by, then cowers at the same time as your cooperative buddy comes along.  Ew!  Personally, I assume that was one of the deciding factors, at least possibly programming-side, as to the reason for the exclusion.  Beyond that, I couldn't say, but I imagine they had their reasons.  If the world isn't responding to Hero #2 (to avoid glitches, and they primarily respond to Hero #1), then Hero #2 enjoys their character a lot less in this new world, as it's not what they hoped them to be.

Lazy programming is an extremely unfair accusation, and very ungrounded.

Let alone getting you friend that is totally in another persons world where that character is totally .

How are the NPC's going to respond huh?
Are they going too dance around or run away...they can't do it at the same time.

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Only when the last tree
Has been cut down
And the last river
Has dried to a trickle
Will man realise
That we cannot eat money
And reciting old proverbs
Makes you sound like a twat
-Banksy