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Re: Project NATAL.

Sovvolf — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:55:37 GMT

mcpaddyb:
But lets just say that they made Street Fighter IV (for example) compatable with NATAL. Could you, with you current fighting ability and flexibility beat Sagat on hard. I know I couldn't.

Funnily enough if Natal works out the way it should I probably would stand a chance at whupping Sagat on hard mode, some think I carnt do with a control pad lol. I'm pritty damb bad most fighting games cept fight simulators (Fight Night, UFC ect.), mainly becuase I carnt pull of those fast button combos and the thing that has me excited about Natal is that (if it works like its supposed to) I will no longer have to be at burning my thumbs off with bottun combos and that I will be able to use my own experience to defeat my opponent, also being able to actually jump up and shout SHRYUKAN!!! should be hillarious.

Re: Project NATAL.

mcpaddyb — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:12:11 GMT

But lets just say that they made Street Fighter IV (for example) compatable with NATAL. Could you, with you current fighting ability and flexibility beat Sagat on hard. I know I couldn't.

Re: Project NATAL.

Sovvolf — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:13:16 GMT

I#m actually looking forward to the 360 brining fitness style games out and what not, but yes I do understand were your coming from Pat, I like to relax and just play games confortably, I'm sure that they wont make Natal mandatory for most 360 games, like ive said before, most poeple like you've said just like to relax when playing games, and not every one will be able to afford this Natal device, but it will have some interesting games I should think, for when people are in the mood to play them, games like fight night or mortal kombat would be awsome for this lol.

Re: Project NATAL.

mcpaddyb — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:38:09 GMT

Am I the only one who doesn't like where NATAL is heading. When I play my Xbox (even though it has the RRoD) it is a relaxation method not a get fit plan. With the controller in my hand I am able to do things that I cant in real life plus with minimal effort. Call me lazy but you'd be pretty p*ssed if you had to power your TV by using a treadmill and change the channel with star jumps. When the Guardian reported on it (even though they know nothing about games as they are stuck up ars*s, they think GTA4 was , they just stick to the main stream because they think thats what the "youth" wants to hear when I'm the only youth that even reads it..... anyway, sorry) they said it may replace the controller completely or at least call the end to the controller. Yes, Milo was but please do not get rid of the controller, we need it to be that hero who saves the day in every game.

P.S I'm back from my ban and exams, ain't it ....

Re: Project NATAL.

sebasness — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:52:02 GMT

I like the idea of where natal, and the games industry is headed. I liked natal better than Sony's motion controller for 1 main reason. Video games have always been about pushing the bar in interactivity. While I admit, Sony's motion controller would have a more practical application to begin with and will definitely be more precise, natal is headed in a totally new direction. Sony's strikes me as a super wiimote. That's a shallow comparison, but that's the impression I got. It focuses on detecting the wand, not on the whole body. Microsoft's just seems more revolutionary, with more application in the future. And that scanning thing is pretty cool too.

Re: Project NATAL.

stevenhomen — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:36:45 GMT

I find it incredibly lame that MS and Sony are following Nintendo, I know that casual and non gamer crowd pool is huge, but come on now...

Re: Project NATAL.

Aynen — Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:52:53 GMT

Personally I wouldn't even want to see NATAL used for casual games like the Wii. Let them try this technology in more serious and subtle ways. Xbox was never marketed towards the same crowd as the Wii nor should it be. I'd think the majority of Xbox gamers don't want to flap their arms around like crazy to move around some cutesy character that resembles Mario. I hope that game designers who plan to use NATAL agree with me there. We allready know what motion capture can do for the casual gamer's mom. Now I'd like to see what this technology can do for the more serious gamer.

Re: Project NATAL.

Sovvolf — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:20:51 GMT

maggot:
If we can really scan in everything it would be damm fun to use your *** as a sword in some game.

lmao I know it sounds immature but I think i'd try some think like that for shits and giggles lol, but ive also got my own sword at home lol. The problem I see with all this scan thing is that it more the likely takes a picture of the item and apllies it as a texture, so If I was to do my sword I would have to hide my fingers, and whats to stop it from taking a picture of the background instead.

Re: Project NATAL.

maggot — Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:30:37 GMT

If we can really scan in everything it would be damm fun to use your *** as a sword in some game.

Re: Project NATAL.

Sovvolf — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 15:09:41 GMT

True somethink small would be difficult, I doubt the fact that the 360 is getting sky on it would shift them or that you can order movies, but some think like this project natal if its working how its meant to, I honestly think it could do it, Like I said most people by the Wii becuase of the novelty the feel of being in the game, this natal thing is the same but more advanced then putting a laser pen to a motion sensor.

Re: Project NATAL.

deliriousstudios — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:04:32 GMT

The Wii also has the benefit of being a household name for casual gaming, like the iPod has for mp3 players. It would be difficult to shift the public consciousness to the Xbox for games that the Wii offers.

Re: Project NATAL.

quaseman — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:46:02 GMT

Sovvolf:
fablier:
Sovvolf:

If it works like it should work though it will probably destory the Wii lol.

Even if it works well I don't think it will really hurt the Wii. I think they will have to release a new console with the motion camera included in order to stand a chance.

The reason I say it will destroy the Wii, is that most poeple play the we becuase of the novelty, mostly a partys or when drunk, your mum plays it, your grandmum plays it, but its becuase of the whole motion sensor its got built in, but really all you really doing is pointing an advanced laser pen at a camera, with natal your actually in the game, it tracks you not a laser, unless Nintendo has somethink like this on the build people are going to switch over to the 360 for this. Thats my thoery any way, I could be wrong lol.

There is still the price difference! Wii wins because it has everthing in the package you need and is cheaper. It could work if they make a package for the 360 with the camera and some games, the category of Wii-Fit, and sell it at the price of the Wii. But they already lost the casuals to Nintendo and I think it is too late to get them back in this generation of consoles. Most Wii owners also don't seem to buy a second console just for the sake of it or improved features.

Re: Project NATAL.

Sovvolf — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:30:04 GMT

fablier:
Sovvolf:

If it works like it should work though it will probably destory the Wii lol.

Even if it works well I don't think it will really hurt the Wii. I think they will have to release a new console with the motion camera included in order to stand a chance.

The reason I say it will destroy the Wii, is that most poeple play the we becuase of the novelty, mostly a partys or when drunk, your mum plays it, your grandmum plays it, but its becuase of the whole motion sensor its got built in, but really all you really doing is pointing an advanced laser pen at a camera, with natal your actually in the game, it tracks you not a laser, unless Nintendo has somethink like this on the build people are going to switch over to the 360 for this. Thats my thoery any way, I could be wrong lol.

Re: Project NATAL.

fablier — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:09:43 GMT

Sovvolf:
If it works like it should work though it will probably destory the Wii lol.

Even if it works well I don't think it will really hurt the Wii. I think they will have to release a new console with the motion camera included in order to stand a chance.

Re: Project NATAL.

Sovvolf — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:55:44 GMT

fablier:

For those who are interested, the 1up cast questions Todd Howard, Fallout 3 and Elder Scrolls series executive producer (Bethesda), about what he thinks games will do with NATAL. It's at about the 27 minute mark, link.

Basically he thinks creating virtual characters is a long way off; "the whole interacting with another character is the thing we are furthest from". He thinks that games will use it for simple things, like giving squad commands in Rainbow Six with your hands rather than the d-pad.

I would have though they'd have used it for sword and sheilds attacks lol. but hey there you go, what about voice commands, any news on that.

Anways onto the natal thingy mijig,

first off how much do you think this is going to cost, I'd estimate at about £80/$130 optimisticly of cource.

Also as I mentioned on another thread, will natal actually work??, When I'm in a fighting game, and I just start waving my hands around, how does it know wether I'm attacking or just flapping around, same with when I throw a kick. This is the problem the eye toy had that kept it from being brilliant.

The voice recognition will also be a ***, will you have to say stuff extremely clearly for it to understand and will it understand different accents, this was the main problem in Tom clancys End War, When ever i'd ask it to do some think, like Unit1=Attack=unit3 with my Barnsley accent it wouldnt understand me and it had me sending units all over the place becuase it couldnt understand.

These little problems are whats niggeling at the back of my head that sort of lowers my expectations of it, although I do really hope it is like the tech demo showed lol.

If it works like it should work though it will probably destory the Wii lol.

The fact that I'm a martail artist and I enjoy martial arts give me an idea perfect for this little natal project. A game that can teach you martial arts, Imagine it, getting a set of instructors concidered to be the best at each style to do it for you, basicly it would be like an interactive exercise movie with the instructor of which style you picked talking to you and showing you what to do and instructing you, but becuase of the capabilities that this gadget says that it can do, it would be able to monitor your peformance to see if you are it right or wrong and be able to correct you, it would place minigames in there for you to try out the moves learned during training, little sparring matched with virtual sparring partners. The game probably only be able to do stand up styles unless of cource your with a partner, as I dont think it would be able to track takedowns and submission moves. Also clinch moves would be a pain but I think it would be able to pull it off sorta. Of cource the game wouldnt be as as going to a gym and learning it, but it would be for people who dont want to go to the gym or can be bothered going to a gym, it would also be for me when I miss training to catch up alittle lol.