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Re: Heavy Rain

markrichardbehenna — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:04:12 GMT

Fahrenheit still manages to be fantastic, even though most of the game is quick time events. Actually it's more like a movie with multiple paths than a game. It has one of those quirky plots which goes from odd & spooky to balls out insanity, and I think many developers should take a lesson.

So yeah, can't wait for Heavy Rain. Wait a sec. No PC release? No 360 release? I don't have a PS3!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

Re: Heavy Rain

maggot — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:29:22 GMT

Fata1moose:
I have a ps3 but I don't like that simon says gameplay, I rarely rent games so I hope there is a demo.

But that really isn't the only gameplay in the game. It's not simons quest 2. There is also lots of ... Erm "normal adventure game" gameplay where you can freely walk around.

Also it doesn't seems like there will be a demo, maybe later but nothing is planned yet.

Re: Heavy Rain

matneee — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:54:17 GMT

uzivatel:

I am fan of more direct approach - you dont need QTEs to let players make decisions during the game. Yes, it looks better because it gives authors more freedom with camera ... the thing is - does it play better?

Apparently is does. According to the feedback I've read on previews, the action system gives much more freedom to the player than the standard "One button for action, one button for jump, one button for shoot gun" system a lot of action adventures use.

bear in mind that if Heavy Rain is anything like Fahrenheit, QTEs won't make up a great deal of it. With the exception of a few drawn-out fights, most of Fahrenheit was controlling with the sticks, making appropriate gesture movements from the options as they occured to the character. Which I personally thought was quite a lot better than having to scour the area for Generic Switch X before bushing 'Action'. When it gets down to it, the QTEs were there in place of cutscenes.

Still, if you don't like that sort of thing then fair enough. All I know is the previews say it works and gives you a freedom you really have to play to understand (yeah, unhelpful, I know) and every time I see a new vid or read a new preview I want to play it more and more...

Re: Heavy Rain

Fata1moose — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:25:49 GMT

I have a ps3 but I don't like that simon says gameplay, I rarely rent games so I hope there is a demo.

Re: Heavy Rain

Mortalitis_Infinitas — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:00:11 GMT

maggot:
Yeah i meant the lucasarts adventure games. But i just know that no game has immersed me as much as fahrenheit, ever. Even when the story turned bad and the last part of the game felt rushed it was so .

Same here.

I've been following Heavy Rain ever since that "angry wife" tech video appeared. Been impressed with the screenshots as well.

I'm hoping that it takes the immersion and storytelling of Fahrenheit and builds upon it with Heavy Rain. I'm sure that since the gameplay is similar (in regards to movie-like interaction) they've learned a number of things since Fahrenheit.

Re: Heavy Rain

maggot — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:49:05 GMT

This thread is like my own personal blog.

HD trailer up and it looks amazing, also really sounding soundtrack and a new character.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-heavy-rain/54362

Also Milo is in the game

Re: Heavy Rain

maggot — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:58:51 GMT

Yeah i meant the lucasarts adventure games.

But i just know that no game has immersed me as much as fahrenheit, ever. Even when the story turned bad and the last part of the game felt rushed it was so .

Re: Heavy Rain

uzivatel — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:52:02 GMT

maggot:
But this isnt smashing random buttons. Sometimes it is but many times you will have the choice to do diffrent actions as seen on the last pic i posted in this thread.

Fahrenheit worked imo just as well as any other game out there when it came to the action. They can make everything look so much better with the camera angles that they can have because it isn't just another shooter.

Did you also hate all the old adventure games ? :/

No, but if the game used random generator, you would not know

I am fan of more direct approach - you dont need QTEs to let players make decisions during the game. Yes, it looks better because it gives authors more freedom with camera ... the thing is - does it play better?

If by "all the old" you mean the ones with text commands, then yes, I hated those. I liked SCUMM adventure games and the newer stuff as those games were usually build on solving puzzles (and fun dialogues).

Re: Heavy Rain

maggot — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:13:50 GMT

uzivatel:
Mashing random butons? not so much...

We will see if pushing the game until 2010 was decision or not.

But this isnt smashing random buttons. Sometimes it is but many times you will have the choice to do diffrent actions as seen on the last pic i posted in this thread.

Fahrenheit worked imo just as well as any other game out there when it came to the action. They can make everything look so much better with the camera angles that they can have because it isn't just another shooter.

Did you also hate all the old adventure games ? :/

Re: Heavy Rain

uzivatel — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:03:43 GMT

Yeah, Alan Wake, pretty much the same story.

I dont like QTEs and I doubt there are many gamers who do. It feels like something to have you occupied while the game plays itself.
Its not an issue if the story is . Then again shooting stuff (if done right!) may be fun on its own. Mashing random butons? not so much...

We will see if pushing the game until 2010 was decision or not.

Re: Heavy Rain

maggot — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:08:49 GMT

uzivatel:
Heavy Rain? The game should have been released 2008 not 2010.
If the story is great, it should be awesome experience ... if not, well, there is not much else left other than the story, is there?

Why should it have been released in 2008 ? Rather delay a game than release some bad game and quantic have said that they are on budget and all so it's all fine. Alan wake should also have been released a long time ago but it wasnt done yet and now it's looking awesome. What was your point again ?

What is there other than the story ? There is more than just quick time events in the game, the qte's are only used when some action is going on. Other than that you can walk around like in any other adventure game (try fahrenheit and you will know how it works, only this time the qte buttons wont be big and ugly). Even when fahrenheits story went bad the game was still fun to play. What is the big diffrence from doing all that to : cover, shoot, cover, shoot, cover, shoot ?

They are going to reveal a new character at gamescom, the main game is done but they are holding it back until early 2010 and polishing it to not drown in the mess that is christmas.

Re: Heavy Rain

uzivatel — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:47:23 GMT

Heavy Rain? The game should have been released 2008 not 2010.
If the story is great, it should be awesome experience ... if not, well, there is not much else left other than the story, is there?

Re: Heavy Rain

Laterali — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:52:35 GMT

kymned:
I'm with Maggot on this one. Indigo Prophecy(Fahrenheit) has been one of my favorite games for awhile now. Heavy Rain is one of the main reasons I'm going to finally go ahead and get a PS3. I've just been waiting for them to come out with some games that make it worth the pirce and that is definitely one of them. I'm really thankful to Mort for linking me to it, otherwise I probably still wouldn't know anything about it.

This is my view in a nutshell. I still play Indigo Prophecy on a regular basis. One of my all time favorite games. I just bought a PS3 a couple days ago in anticipation of Heavy Rain and GOW3. I know I have a while to wait but I guess I'll just have to spend my time playing MGS4 and Infamous and Resistance...

Re: Heavy Rain

maggot — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:51:49 GMT

Nah but some does have really story lines. Games like resistance and killzones stories are... Well pretty much not there and if they are they are boring.

But yeah MGS4 had story but i still think the one with the best is still horrible overlooked : Valkyria Chronicles and it's even made by Sega ! Yeah sega made and released a decent game !

Re: Heavy Rain

figgy13 — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:26:28 GMT

The game looks great but is it a PS3 exclusive??? If it is then this will just have to be another one I'll have to miss out on. Oh, and is it just me or do PS3 exclusives all have great story-lines? Case-in-point MGS and now this game.