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DarkBASIC

Last post 12-12-2006, 21:48 by guitarscout. 19 replies.
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  •  12-12-2006, 21:48 2402679

    DarkBASIC

    Hello. I just bought this program called DarkBASIC. It is a simple program to create your very own games. However, the instructions are VERY hard for me to follow. I don't understand what the book is trying to get at and the in-game tutorial has you do certain steps, but even then I don't know what I'm doing. I'm clueless.
  •  12-13-2006, 0:13 2402925 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    ...Your point being?
  •  12-13-2006, 0:16 2402932 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    I'm shoeless. Ok what do you want us to help you with ?
  •  12-13-2006, 0:17 2402935 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    I'd like to learn how to program from it. The instructions are difficult to read and if there was anybody that could help me out with it that has played around with it.
  •  12-13-2006, 0:20 2402946 in reply to 2402679

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  •  12-13-2006, 0:23 2402953 in reply to 2402679

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    Thanks for the link. It's just that the tutorials that came with the game don't really give you that good of explanation of everything and all those terms and math problems and all that jazz is way over my head. I'll see what I can find.
  •  12-13-2006, 0:24 2402956 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    Let us know if you found anything that helped you out Happy [:)]
  •  12-13-2006, 0:24 2402959 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    Good [Good] God we have google then Happy [:)] Even this baby googles
  •  12-13-2006, 0:27 2402969 in reply to 2402679

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     Quoting: WorldCriticProductions
    Let us know if you found anything that helped you out Happy [:)]
    I will do that. Thanks!
  •  12-13-2006, 0:29 2402975 in reply to 2402679

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     Quoting: maggot
    Good [Good] God we have google then Happy [:)] Even this baby googles [qimg]http://www.google-kai.com/DSC03870.JPG-for-web-normal.jpg[/qimg]
    A well informed baby indeed.
  •  12-13-2006, 0:33 2402990 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    You're really not asking anything though are you? You haven't said what you don't understand, or why. What exactly were you expecting from a response other than links to tutorials? Probably none any more basic (pun intended) than the tutorial that came with the software. If you tell us what specifically you don't understand we might be able to help more.
    Do you automatically click underlined text too?
  •  12-13-2006, 1:11 2403084 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

    I don't understand the code work involved
  •  12-13-2006, 3:29 2403268 in reply to 2402679

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    ...an example being? I'm guessing you were looking for a more WYSIWYG editor with fancy buttons you click on to add items to games instead of actually having to write code. There's some software out there, but a programming language usually requires some base understanding of core programming concepts. darkBasic apparently is a simplified high programming language with easy to read commands, but from their web page...
    with a little determination and learning you could teach yourself all you need to know about programming with DarkBASIC. For extra help along the way there are free on-line tutorials or a 750-page book available.
    Stress goes to the '750-page book', where you will have to sit down and do some good ole fashioned reading and practicing before you're ready to make your first game.
    Philosophical Ninja.
  •  12-13-2006, 9:37 2403415 in reply to 2402679

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     Quoting: guitarscout
    I don't understand the code work involved
    Oh is that all. The answer is easy then.
    Do you automatically click underlined text too?
  •  12-13-2006, 16:08 2403781 in reply to 2402679

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    i would just like to get my thoughts in before this thread starts to be ignored i used DarkBASIC for a while, and i have to say i found the original to be buggy and rather uninteresting true , its versitile and you can do graphical programming easily, but for some reason ever time i started a new project, i would get half way through programming it and would end up with something cvrashing or a command working improperly, long story short, using a proper language is much better, you will learn a lot more if you learn either a normal programming language (C++ for example) or a visual programming tool ( visual c#) i have to say that visual c# makes it easy to make some really good applications on the .NET framework ( ive made a custom launcher, complete with icons to just about everything useful on my pc) however, it all depends on time and what you want to do, if you want to get straight onto graphics, use DB, if y7ou want to handle data and make "smart" programs use C++ and if you want to combine the 2 but you want to draw your forms and then use code to make it work then VC# or VB might be your thing if your interested i recommend visiting MSDN here http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/ and looking round at all of the express editions of their IDE's, good luck anyway
     Quoting: Saucemasterpimp
    Stress goes to the '750-page book', where you will have to sit down and do some good ole fashioned reading and practicing before you're ready to make your first game.
    ive read the DB book, it goes from data to graphics without filling that little gap in the middle, i didn't learn a thing it was only till i gave up and tried VC# when i read a book that made sense when i started seeing everytihng come together http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teach-Yourself-Visual-Complete-Starter/dp/0672327406/sr=8-2/qid=1166028330/ref=sr_1_2/202-9672870-8357443?ie=UTF8&s=books i also grasped some of the basics of C++ when i borrowed C++ for dummies from the library , but it was way out of date and i decided to think about trying a better IDE and book
  •  12-13-2006, 19:47 2404035 in reply to 2402679

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    Wow. That was really an answer I was looking for. You really know what I mean. Thanks for the advice.
  •  12-13-2006, 21:48 2404341 in reply to 2402679

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    I have to agree, I'm not an experienced programmer but I know basic c++ and tryed dark basic, I found it rather buggy, and the code interface is frustrating to say the least. I'd start by learning some basic c++ (start simple, make a few console applications to do simple task - even as basic as simply output commands "cout>>"Hello World" " etc. And then work from there. Visual c++ as already mentioned would be another good idea (I got a free late beta version of the microsoft website, not sure if you can still get a free copy)... Basically Vc++ will allow you to make button apps and more... The basic moral is stay away from dark basic, it's buggy, annoying to use and to be perfectally honest is not documented enough given that it's intended market is essentially begginners. There are quite a few VERY good c++ begginners tutorials on the web (like 100's of pages long for free) I advise checking them out as they are very helpful =)
  •  12-13-2006, 22:04 2404386 in reply to 2402679

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     Quoting: guitarscout
    Wow. That was really an answer I was looking for. You really know what I mean. Thanks for the advice.
    im glad i could help and as for visual C++ i havent actually tried that, i was refering to visual c#, they are both part of the visual studio collection which can be downloaded from MSDN ( microsoft developers network) ive actually went through the visual c# tutorials and that book i mentioned and i have learned a lot ( much more solid information than the darkbasic book ) if you have broadband, its definately worth downloading the express edition of one of these languages, you get a 30 day trial unliscensed and then you have to register ( however i got my version form the book so i didnt need to) im also very fond of the 'control' style of visual programming, what i mean is indarkBASIC everything is written in code and theres not many media formats you can put into your programs ( they only support bmp and jpg for images .x and .3ds for models .wav and .mid for sound and .avi for movies ) visual c# opens a whole library of formats because you can integrate WMP so you automatically get .wav .mp3. .wmv .wma i could go on forever, controls are a much more efficient way of programming if you want to make applications as opposed to games ( however you can make games in the IDE, i just havent tried it ) and im writting an essay again, sorry :-)
  •  12-13-2006, 22:24 2404424 in reply to 2402679

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    Visual C# Express Edition is free of charge. As far as I know, you only need a Microsoft .NET passport account (like a hotmail address or any other address MSN Messenger accepts. You can also easily make a new one if you want.)
  •  12-14-2006, 15:38 2405258 in reply to 2402679

    Re: DarkBASIC

     Quoting: Hilm
    it's intended market is essentially begginners.
    its rather funny since i could never get my head around DB but VC# was much more straightforward my advice to beginner programmers is get a beginners book with a repuatable publisher ( sams publishing for example) because ive had terrible experiences with books with the word 'introduction' and 'beginner' only to find that the books are only suitable for the higher skilled programmer look carefully at the languages available and decide whats best for you
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