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Suffering from writers block?
Last post 04-09-2009, 17:54 by Orakaius. 22 replies.
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06-05-2007, 6:42 |
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Suffering from writers block?
to any who dont know what writers block is, it is when you run out of creative idea's, and thoughts, many writers suffer from it, im sure some of you have.

but togther im sure we can help each other get past our temporary block, help each other with idea's sugestions ![Happy [:)]](/Emoticons/happy.gif) ,
if your running out of idea's heres a tip:
"look at your surroundings, seriusly, take in everything you see, hear, smell, touch, listen to people's story's of there weekends, read books and take note's, watch movie's and take notes, do you own a camera?, a notebook, go around your town looking at the old buildings, old churches, museums take in sights and you'll be rewarded"
lets stop the block!
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06-05-2007, 8:13 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
i think to get some good fable ideas flowing you should go to the fable page, not TLC and open the fable mini game site thing and just let the music play as you write, its very inspiring.
I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.
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06-06-2007, 22:19 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Well, these all seem like very good suggestions...I'm going through writers block myself, so I might just use some of these ideas.
The Hall of Heroes...for all you Fable writers and artists out there! http://tom175.invisionplus.net/index.php?mforum=tom175&act=idx
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06-06-2007, 23:11 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
I was suffering from writers block until just recently. After going on the RP board I joined an RP that matched my stories concept and from that RP I got good ideas. So the RP board is very good for getting cured of WBS (writers block syndrome).
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06-07-2007, 15:57 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Yes that helped me to. If you are writing fantasy then read the Lord of the Rings books or The Hobbit. I recently finished reading The Fellowship of the Rings, and holy crap! I wrote twenty pages in one hour, the ideas were just flooding into my brain. And it all made sense!
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06-07-2007, 16:23 |
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06-08-2007, 0:13 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
My father drove a cab every day.
No one day passed that he didn't go to work, because of "Cab Driver's Block."
There's a lesson in this for those who hear it.
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06-08-2007, 1:17 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Number 1-HE A ****ING CAB DRIVER!!!!
Number 2-HE DOESN"T ****ING USE HIS IMAGINATION!!!!
Number 3-next time you want to prove a point, make it something that relates to writing, not driving which has nothing to do with writing at all.
Put this in your signature if you believe Michael Jackson is innocent.
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06-08-2007, 12:08 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Point being,
Writer's block doesn't exist for the writer that wants to get paid regularly.
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06-08-2007, 12:56 |
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06-08-2007, 13:22 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
In terms of the Cab Driver analogy, it's about quality control. If a cab driver turns down every fare that comes his way because he wants only the best fare possible - a trip to an out of state airport - then he's going to suffer from Cab Driver's Block. In a similar manner, if you're a writer and you can't get the image of two apples having intercourse out of your head, you either write it or you fight it and hope that something better comes along.
If you're a writer and you have no ideas, you're a **** writer. If you're a writer and you have only shite ideas then get them out of your head and on to the paper, if you don't you'll spend the rest of your days watching two people in shiny green apple suits having sex on a see-saw on that big screen in your head and no good ideas will ever get past them. At best they'll turn in to something workable as you play with them, at worst it'll make room for some new ideas.
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06-16-2007, 4:31 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
The following is not me Patronizing. Someone asked me to post some kind of guidelines in here to support what I am saying, so that it is not just words. It's a philosophy. So here it is.
Writing is work. Not just the writing, but the learning how. Seriously. Research, and reading. And writing and writing, and editing, and re-writing.
Here's one process:
Realize a few things.
"It's never going to be perfect, but it will at one stage of it, be "Done" and " ![Good [Good]](/Emoticons/good.gif) enough.""
If you don't get past that, you'll never finish, because you are lost in the perfectionism trap.
I learned this in the Navy. If you take a bumpy metallic surface, and use a file to smooth it out, it's not ever going to be perfectly smooth, there will always be a flaw. But that flaw might be .01 or .001 inch high, or low. You could work and agonize for days and weeks making it just right, and it will always get to .0001 or .00001 away from done. Until you or someone else says, "Enough, work is backing up, get it out the door." Lucky me, I had a Chief to tell me "Enough." Be your own Chief.
You think your story has been done.
Here's a wakeup call. "It's all been done before."
Multiple times. It's all Boy meets girl, and rescue the family from danger, and save the village and kill my worst enemy for raping my wife, and I loved my wife, but now raped, love her less, (because I am less of a man, secretly for letting it happen) love leads to children, and the circle of life, and don't trust strangers, and strangers can teach us new ways. Read a good book called The 36 Dramatic Situations, by Georges Polti.
Based on that, you have sites like this:
http://www.sff.net/people/julia.west/CALLIHOO/ideagen2.htm
And from that page:
http://www.angelfire.com/nc/tcrpress/plots1.html
There you go, 2000 plots, something like that.
I personally play roleplaying games. I get plots from those.
Many different genres, and settings, but I prefer science fiction the most. Most of my best (I think) Characters, I designed with GURPS, or Star Trek: The Roleplaying game (and made it non-star trek setting), or HERO, 5th edition.
All of these can be had of of Ebay for cheap along with idea books like Heroes for Tomorrow by Task Force Games. (which is so good it's a coveted collectors item, these days.)
If I want a spy plot, I break open my "Spycraft, 2.0" Pages and pages of plots in there.
See movies, read books.
And, "Even though it has all been done, new things can still succeed"
John Wayne had the Western Cornered. Along came Mr. Eastwood, and Sergio Leone.
Then Westerns Died again, then along game Silverado, and a few more, for a few years.
The definitive Lord of the Rings was done by Ralph Bakshi, and reigned from the 60's onward, until Peter Jackson. Now that is being replaced by a PC MMORPG As we speak.
Star Wars was one type of sci fi. Star Trek another. Alien, a third, Any 90's TV Show such as B5, Stargate (and spinoffs) Space: Above and Beyond, etc ad infinitum, as nasueum. It's all space, but space is huge and vast. Look up at night, and see each star as a story.
Some worlds will have no life, others will be like ours. If you don't like other solar systems, use Earth's present, or recent past, or distant future.
Stories that can be written are anything you can imagine. The past, Medieval stories, gangster stories (The Godfather, ![Good [Good]](/Emoticons/good.gif) fellas), war stories (too many to list), stories set in russia (Gorkiy Park, and many others), the middle east, africa, Australia, (Mad Max) Italy (Under the Tuscan Sun). I mean, yeah ther'es even a major movie about a guy stuck in between countries at an airport (The Terminal) And that's just our little planet.
It's all space. All one galaxy, a billion planets. This world has a few billion people each one has a story. Imagine the drake equation being truer than we could imagine. A billion stories ^ 5, on worlds so unique we can't even imagine.
Ice worlds, asteroids, Mile high cities. Weird creatures that live between dimensions. Desert planets, or places with shallow seas. Or seas of stuff similar to gasoline (Titan is like this, or as far as I can recall)
Most importantly, "If you don't get rid of low self esteem and self loathing and hate the work so much that you destroy it just before it's finished because you are afraid of success, you'll never get anything accomplished, because you, yourself are destroying it."
That last one is very tough for most to hurdle.
And "It's not a fear of failure, it's a fear of success, since as soon as you stop, you've failed, so you are wallowing in failure"
Approach the work as if you can do nothing but succeed. Set yourself to the work, with stubborness. It just might take years. But if ultimately it takes 2, 3, or 5 years, it will. But if it takes 5, and you stop at 4, you have failed, but for that pushing towards the goal.
As to technique.
Start with images.
A cafe' in Vienna, 1956, it's a cold war spy film.
A Japanese destroyer, World war II. It's a war film.
Nuclear Explosions over cities, it's an apocalyptic film.
War protesters marching in the streets, 1973. It's a US political film.
Then add characters.
Who is in charge? Who is leading? who are their followers?
Then add drama.
Put the characters in danger or conflict.
Who is the enemy or source of conflict? What weapons of methods will they use?
Then add complications.
More enemies? Betrayal / Desertion? Worse danger than the original enemies?
Then
Have the heroes realize the truth about themselves, their enemies or the situation.
More action, win or lose.
Then wrap it up.
![Good [Good]](/Emoticons/good.gif) luck to those who quit before getting started.
Famous writers (I'm thinking Hemingway was one of them) have said "Your first million words are crap."
It's all a skill, just like plumbing, cab driving or anything. Take the plot, and fix it. Take the broken characters and fix them. It's not magic, but it is art, and can be a science, for the most part.
Keep a notepad with you. I bought one years ago, that has a little clip on area where I am never without a pen, too. I write down great ideas as I get them, and keep them else they are lost. Write your dreams, as soon as you wake.
Then, write those ideas out as stories, comic books or screenplays/films, or as a roleplaying game or PC computer game design.
Get some good books on screenwriting. They can be had from Amazon, relatively cheaply. Even if you are not a screenwriter, it helps with the plotting, certainly.
Get some good books from The Writer's Digest Series, based out of Cincinnati.
Realize that those are all one good way, model on their success, then pitch those, and go your own way.
Get some good screenwriting software. Too many to list. I used those for a while, till I learned dynamic plotting, now I use Windows Notepad.
Read great works of literature. Read books on acting, directing, and making independant films.
Don't quit. My screenplays haven't gotten made by hollywood, but I work on them, making them better. I don't quit.
My wife says that's my best and worst trait. Stubborness.
The neat thing about this The Movies Game is... stuff can get made here, for Zero Cost. My stuff is mostly crap, it's off the wall. I am not gonna let that stop me from learning and doing, and making it. I've got a unique voice, so does everyone else. Sure it's not hollywood, but it teaches you how to write plots and characters and dialogue, and storyboarding.
I hope one person got one idea from this. If so it was well worth the time I spent in writing it.
Which is my philosophy, really, in one simple sentence.
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07-17-2007, 13:13 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
im suffering from writers block currently, can anyone offer some new ideas?
I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.
I have great faith in fools; self-confidence my friends call it.
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07-18-2007, 11:47 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Listen to some music you havent heard for years, that always makes you think.
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07-18-2007, 11:50 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Go for a walk, get some inspiration, go to an art gallery maybe
I didn't say it was your fault... I said.. I was going to blame you!
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07-18-2007, 13:10 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Just play Fable. Think of all the things the story didn't expand on very well.
Omne ignotum pro magnifico. (Everything sounds more magnificent in Latin.)
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07-22-2007, 20:32 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
Coolaz gave me the idea of writer's block, and that idea was there is none.
Writer's block is simply just a moment where either you can't write, or you want to keep a certain standard to your stories. Writer's Block is bollocs, it's not there.
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07-22-2007, 20:46 |
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04-08-2009, 21:07 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
I feel weird unearthing this thread but I can't help it, I suffer from writers block regularly, but in small doses. I find that often if I sleep a bit, listen to music (Dido mainly) and just move the whole thing from my mind for a while, when I think about it again, I'm ready and willing to write again and have a huge number of ideas at my disposal. personally I feel cheap if I base my stories too much on other books/movies/whatever and I either have to have a huge mix of stories or something completely original (original meaning I haven't yet read the book with this idea in it), that's why if I write a story, it has to be big enough to keep me working for a while because I'm very picky with the ideas I get and I never know when I'll get another idea that lives up to my standards.
anyway I apologise for digging up this ancient artifact for you all but I couldn't help it. ![Huh? [:^)]](/emoticons/emotion-18.gif)
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04-09-2009, 17:54 |
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Re: Suffering from writers block?
countdowntoxmas:
anyway I apologise for digging up this ancient artifact for you all but I couldn't help it. ![Huh? [:^)]](/emoticons/emotion-18.gif)
If this thread is an artifact, then the people who posted in it must be absolout relics. ![Stick out tongue [:P]](/emoticons/emotion-4.gif)
You make me feel so old. ![Sad [:(]](/emoticons/emotion-6.gif)
No worries, on the necro, at least it was a reason to post and it didn't include;
"hi omg lol this thread is old bye then"
That makes me somewhere from happy to not bothered. ![^^ [^^]](/emoticons/^^.gif)

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