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  •  07-14-2008, 0:25 2963688

    UK OXM Article: The Facts

     

    Having bought the magazine yesterday I think I'll post here listing the points raised in the article. Also I'm aware that in British copywright law you are allowed to quote up to 10% of a piece of writing without breaking the law so I've counted the words to make sure I don't break the law, but I haven't quoted much so here goes.

    Also this may contain some spoilers, so stop reading now if you like suspense.

    OK so here's a run down of the things confirmed in the article (in order of appearance):

    • Fable II is content complete, though still being tweaked.
    • Stats, healthbars and other mathematical stuff is "moved to the back" of the game, though still accessible through menus.
    • Sparrow is your hero's nickname to start with.
    • Non-interactive cut scenes make up less then 5 minutes of the total play time and are only done for dramatic effect.
    • Your sister's name is Rose
    • You meet a vendor with your sister who's name is "Mystic Murago" but you don't believe in magic.
    • A woman called Theresa offers to sell you a magic box that makes your wishes comes true.
    • Lucien owns the Castle in Bowerstone
    • Lucien owns a magic circle and would like you to step into it.
    • Theresa is your tutor and the training is considerably shorter then in Fable I.
    • You get your dog after you've grown ten years. It's a puppy called "Dog".
    • You can't change the dog's name.
    • You visit the Heroes Guild which was destroyed by Jack of Blades.
    • It's revealed that some sort of event "erased" the age of heroes and paved the way for "Albion's Age of Enlightenment"
    • The controls are easy to learn
    • You suck up exp using a bumper
    • One of the first missions involves raiding a Bandit camp.
    • Tharg (the bandit) kicks your dog.
    • Currently known spells are: Inferno, Time Control, Magic Blades, Raise Dead and Force Push.
    • You can create your own combos to be set off by a certain combination of buttons (e.g xxx, xxy, xby etc) with a combination of all three fighting styles.
    • Death simply means you lose any UNGATHERED exp. Exp you have already collected but not spent is safe.
    • Co-op can be played by either someone in the room OR someone from your xbox live friends list.
    • You can use a henchman using the default generic creation settings OR your own hero from your own Fable II save file.
    • There is a "Safe Mode" that is easily activated that prevents people from slaughtering your family.
    • Players CAN NOT marry each other.

    Now for accuracy I'll quote some of the more interesting bits just so you can see what was actually said:

    Stats etc:

    "'We're taking all that techiness, things like hit points and weapon stats, and moving them to the back end of the game.' insists Molyneux. RPG fans can still enjoy the experience, because all the numbers, maps and descriptions are still present. In fact the menus are impeccably presented, with small videos demonstrating the actual effects of items and spells."

    Your sister, Theresa, Lucien and Dog:

    "Without spoiling too much, you and your sister Rose encounter a street vendor called Mystic Murago, but don't believe in magic after a tough childhood on the streets. Overhearing your conversation, a mysterious woman called Theresa offers to sell you a magic box that makes your wishes come true. ... It's a reminder that you should be careful what you wish for when Rose's dream to visit the castle is fulfilled. When it's owner Lucien asks 'Would you kindly step into this magic circle?' (a sly reference to Bioshock), you know it's going to end in disaster. ... Fast Forwarding ten years, we see your character fully grown under the tutelage of Theresa. You're also gifted a superbly animated puppy, who is called 'Dog'. It's surprising you cant name him..."

    Heroes Guild:

    "Located on an island in the middle of a lake, this mysterious tomb contains the remnants of a long forgotten Heroes Guild - a training area for novice adventurers. These ancient halls are also full of relics and murals, references to the events of Fable and the defeat of the legendary Jack of Blades. It's revealed that, 500 years before, this noble age was erased in a cataclysm, paving the way for Albions new Age of Enlightenment."

    Death:

    "'One of the things we tried was giving players a scar or permanent disfigurement if they were killed, but focus testing showed that most people would rather reload their game then spoil their character' he [Peter] says. Like the original Fable, the punishment is that you lose any experience orbs you have failed to absorb. This is something that can prove costly in the long run."

    Co-op:

    "There's not much excuse for dying anyway, not least because you can get a "henchman" to join the battle at any point. This can either be someone on your Xbox Live friends list, or a mate in your living room with an extra controller. ... If your friend has spent a long time nurturing and evolving their hero in story mode, they can bring him or her into your game, often with unpredictable consequences."

    "Thankfully, preventing them [co-op partners] from killing important characters or family members is as simple as activating 'safe mode' (pressing down on the D-pad). Thats not to say an E v i l [Evil] hero can't do any harm though."

    Marrying:

    "But if two players find they're E v i l [Evil] soul mates can they marry each other? "No" say Molyneux "That's one of the features we left out".  

    I know there's been like a million threads on this already however I decided I'd do one where I've actually quoted the article, and if anyone still doubts any of it I can send them a photo of me with the magazine and holding a newspaper with today's date Stick out tongue [:P] (I'll be naked in the photo for an extra £100).

    It's fairly interesting stuff though. The article implies that online co-op and couch co-op will be similar. However the difference is will online co-op need players to stay on the same screen? Or can you run around the entire world/region unhindered?

    Whatever the answer this is just step one of a classic marketing move. This announcement is big enough to get noticed but not so big that it gives away what is going to be announced at E3. I'd bet my hat that Peter and the Lionhead team still have a card or two up their sleeve and this is simply the smoke and mirrors before they reveal that they have sawn Sam in half Stick out tongue [:P]

     

     


    Blackthorn Ltd. - "Meus intentio est verus. Meus intentio est aurum."

  •  07-14-2008, 0:38 2963693 in reply to 2963688

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Someone posted a link to the full article, but I can't remember in what thread it was.

    G o o d [Good] job!

    Here is the link for the full article: http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=467911
    “I am the ripper, the tearer, the slasher. I am the teeth in the darkness! The talons in the night! My name is strength! And lust! And power!"
  •  07-14-2008, 0:44 2963696 in reply to 2963688

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    You are AWESOME!
    Once I discovered the meaning of life they went and changed it!
  •  07-14-2008, 0:49 2963698 in reply to 2963693

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Beowulf71:
    Someone posted a link to the full article, but I can't remember in what thread it was. G o o d [Good] job overall, but if I remember well from what I read you've twisted some facts, but since I can't find the link, I'll let it go for now. Edit: I found it, I'm going to reread it. Here is the link: http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=467911

    Firstly cheers.

    Secondly anything I have quotation ( " ) marks around is a direct quote, and don't tell me it isn't as I just sat there and typed it out, which wasn't easy as i can't touch type Stick out tongue [:P] Anything else in the summary or after the quotes is merely my interpretations. If you or anyone else wants to know the exact bit of the article that I was referring to for the summary etc I'm more then happy to quote that.

    As for the other link I've seen that before and its got a summary but not a link to the full article. The full article is only readable in the actual magazine, which I bought. It works out the same, but at least with mine you can read the actual bits yourself instead of just going off what I thought they meant Smily [:)]

     


    Blackthorn Ltd. - "Meus intentio est verus. Meus intentio est aurum."

  •  07-14-2008, 0:55 2963701 in reply to 2963698

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Raise Dead! sweeet

  •  07-14-2008, 0:55 2963702 in reply to 2963698

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    I've edit my post, I've checked and you were right, but the link I gave (originally posted by Galaroy) is the full article scan from the mag, so everybody can read the article for themselves if they want.
    “I am the ripper, the tearer, the slasher. I am the teeth in the darkness! The talons in the night! My name is strength! And lust! And power!"
  •  07-14-2008, 1:06 2963703 in reply to 2963702

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Ok so whats up with Rose & Theresa, those names being in Fable II is this new news or were have I been?

    I wish I was locked out of the forums until Fable II's release I cant stop from reading the spoilers :/, but its not like we wont find out within 10 or 20min of playing the game all that was written in the OXM.

  •  07-14-2008, 1:15 2963709 in reply to 2963703

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Ok, I found the thing I think you were wrong about.

    You wrote: "You visit the Heroes Guild which was destroyed by Jack of Blades."

    But the article says: "These ancient halls are also full of relics and murals, references to the events in Fable and the defeat of the legendary Jack of Blades. It's revealed that , 500 years before, this noble age was erased in a cataclysm, paving the way for Albion's new Age of Enlightenment."

    So from that tell me where it says that it's JoB that destroy the Hero Guild.

    Edit: Damn he's gone!
    “I am the ripper, the tearer, the slasher. I am the teeth in the darkness! The talons in the night! My name is strength! And lust! And power!"
  •  07-14-2008, 1:32 2963722 in reply to 2963709

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Beowulf.  =) 

    I'm going to miss your "point proving" when I get so involved in this game that I never look at the forums again.  You crack me up.  Seriously, we have to co-op some baddies together...now that online co-op seems more fact than fantasy.


    Daxworth
  •  07-14-2008, 1:47 2963735 in reply to 2963722

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    I hope raise dead means, raise skeletons or zombies out of corpses.

    Also sounds like the E v i l [Evil] dog morph will be G o o d [Good]

     

     

  •  07-14-2008, 2:42 2963765 in reply to 2963709

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    Beowulf71:
    Ok, I found the thing I think you were wrong about. You wrote: "You visit the Heroes Guild which was destroyed by Jack of Blades." But the article says: "These ancient halls are also full of relics and murals, references to the events in Fable and the defeat of the legendary Jack of Blades. It's revealed that , 500 years before, this noble age was erased in a cataclysm, paving the way for Albion's new Age of Enlightenment." So from that tell me where it says that it's JoB that destroy the Hero Guild. Edit: Damn he's gone!

     

    Yeah I did misread that sorry. I was thinking of the link between the fact it says the guild is wrecked and the fight with JoB, in fairness it is possible, but its likely Fable 2 will follow TLC rather then the vanilla Fable. I'll edit my post to make you happy Stick out tongue [:P]


    Blackthorn Ltd. - "Meus intentio est verus. Meus intentio est aurum."

  •  07-14-2008, 2:45 2963768 in reply to 2963765

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    Woohoooo! Booyeah!

    Thank you sir, may I have another!


    No, no, not happy at all, what can make you think that?
    “I am the ripper, the tearer, the slasher. I am the teeth in the darkness! The talons in the night! My name is strength! And lust! And power!"
  •  07-14-2008, 2:55 2963775 in reply to 2963688

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Thanks for the info dump RichBlake, much appreciated.

    Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
  •  07-14-2008, 5:04 2963833 in reply to 2963768

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    Beowulf71:
    Woohoooo! Booyeah! Thank you sir, may I have another! No, no, not happy at all, what can make you think that?

    I'm man enough to admit when I've made a mistake Wink [;)]


    Blackthorn Ltd. - "Meus intentio est verus. Meus intentio est aurum."

  •  07-14-2008, 5:55 2963861 in reply to 2963833

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    xbox live co op is confirmed!!
    WOOOOO lol
    this topic reminds of a funny comic drawing i saw, they're were two characters. One hunched over a computer the other by the door.
    "Hunny are you coming to bed?"
    "No! This is important!"
    "Whats the matter??"
    "Someone is Wrong on the internet!!"



    There is nothing i hate more in this world than Fable 2's co op camera...
  •  07-14-2008, 5:58 2963863 in reply to 2963861

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    yay! that means that i can play with some of you on the forums.. granted i dont have an xbox and as such dont have xbox live..
    the demon king

    Je découpe les balles de golf !
  •  07-14-2008, 9:24 2963923 in reply to 2963863

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    austinrj, I'm sorry you don't have a 360, you might have been fun to play with.Tongue Tied [:S] I hear prices are going down on them soon.

  •  07-14-2008, 11:47 2964004 in reply to 2963696

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    Cool nice thread saves me £6 ^^ [^^]



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  •  07-14-2008, 12:33 2964037 in reply to 2963722

    Re: UK OXM Article: The Facts

    * "Currently known spells are: Inferno, Time Control, Magic Blades, Raise Dead and Force Push."

    Plus lightening and fireball and that's 7/8 of the spellls.

    Bit dissapointed but I hope that the oh-so-hyped magic customization system is as G o o d [Good] as PM makes it to be.

  •  07-14-2008, 12:37 2964041 in reply to 2964037

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    TraceurBear:
    * "Currently known spells are: Inferno, Time Control, Magic Blades, Raise Dead and Force Push."

    Plus lightening and fireball and that's 7/8 of the spellls.

    Bit dissapointed but I hope that the oh-so-hyped magic customization system is as G o o d [Good] as PM makes it to be.

    I think inferno IS the spell that used to be known as fireball so I think that's just 6/8 spells.


  •  07-14-2008, 12:43 2964047 in reply to 2964041

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    A healing spell is confirmed peter used it in the dog demonstration so that's 7/8

  •  07-14-2008, 12:45 2964052 in reply to 2964037

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