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Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

Last post 07-02-2009, 13:20 by arachnophilia. 14 replies.
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  •  06-22-2009, 22:18 3367673

    Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    I assume Luck and Skill is better than just Devastation alone. Or is Devastation give way more damage than Luck and Skill?


  •  06-22-2009, 22:49 3367678 in reply to 3367673

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Luck and Skill gives the damage bonus you would normally get from both Devastation and Lucky Charm together, so the answer is "Yes," Luck and Skill contributes more damage than Devastation alone.

  •  06-23-2009, 5:48 3367742 in reply to 3367678

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Is it correct that Luck does not stack? If you have a weapon augmented with Luck & Skill and Luck & Life, this would be the same as having only Devastation and Luck & Life on it?



  •  06-23-2009, 10:03 3367768 in reply to 3367742

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Luck does not stack, no.  Nothing of similar effect stacks.  Additionally, Lightning, Flame, E v i l [Evil], and G o o d [Good] damage effects also do not stack to my knowledge.

  •  06-23-2009, 18:05 3367909 in reply to 3367768

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    But they stack with each other? So flame, G o o d [Good] / E v i l [Evil], shock, luck, and skill augments would all stack together? I.e a weapon equipped with flame's gift and divine luck would do more damage then one equipped with just one or the other?

  •  06-23-2009, 18:45 3367914 in reply to 3367909

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    ripsa:
    But they stack with each other? So flame, G o o d [Good] / E v i l [Evil], shock, luck, and skill augments would all stack together? I.e a weapon equipped with flame's gift and divine luck would do more damage then one equipped with just one or the other?
    No, what I was trying to say is that these things do not stack with each other (nor themselves).

    The only 3 damaging effects that stack are Luck, Skill, and Misc (being Flame, Shock, G o o d [Good], or E v i l [Evil]).

  •  06-23-2009, 20:04 3367929 in reply to 3367914

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    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    If im not mistaken, does it not say in one of the loading screens that putting the same augment twice or more in the same weapon does not increase its effect?
  •  06-24-2009, 2:05 3368026 in reply to 3367929

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Yes it does say that, but I think these are different augmentations, hence the name change, so the effect should constantly increase, instead of stay constant. Not entirely sure though, too much calculations, will need to attempt this later tomorrow.


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  •  06-24-2009, 12:18 3368130 in reply to 3368026

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Apologies if this is common knowledge but is there a link to an article which describes what enemies are susceptible to what misc effects (G o o d [Good] / E v i l [Evil], flame, shock)?

  •  06-24-2009, 13:07 3368148 in reply to 3368130

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    ripsa:
    Apologies if this is common knowledge but is there a link to an article which describes what enemies are susceptible to what misc effects (G o o d [Good] / E v i l [Evil], flame, shock)?
    The only thing I know of is a loading screen that says that Hollow Men are susceptible to Fire.  E v i l [Evil] is, of course, best against Guards, Citizens, and possibly Spire Guards.  G o o d [Good] is best against Banshees, Shadows, and Hollow Men.

  •  06-24-2009, 22:52 3368323 in reply to 3368148

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Hm, then whats susceptible to lightning?


  •  06-24-2009, 23:26 3368330 in reply to 3368323

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    theboreddude:
    Hm, then whats susceptible to lightning?
    I'm not certain, but I think it's just a general damage increase.

  •  07-02-2009, 0:30 3370393 in reply to 3368130

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Shisou:
    ripsa:
    But they stack with each other? So flame, G o o d [Good] / E v i l [Evil], shock, luck, and skill augments would all stack together? I.e a weapon equipped with flame's gift and divine luck would do more damage then one equipped with just one or the other?
    No, what I was trying to say is that these things do not stack with each other (nor themselves).

    The only 3 damaging effects that stack are Luck, Skill, and Misc (being Flame, Shock, G o o d [Good], or E v i l [Evil]).

    no, all the damage increasing effects stack with each other. they just don't stack with themselves.

    ripsa:
    Apologies if this is common knowledge but is there a link to an article which describes what enemies are susceptible to what misc effects (G o o d [Good] / E v i l [Evil], flame, shock)?


    it's apparently in the official guide. but we have one confirmed case where the guide is incorrect in this area. i have a partial list here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=rug4cPXGfDQNLHZQ7XI556g&output=html

    if anyone with the guide wants to add to it, the permissions are all open.

    Shisou:
    theboreddude:
    Hm, then whats susceptible to lightning?
    I'm not certain, but I think it's just a general damage increase.


    luck (lucky charm etc) and skill (devastation etc) increase damage. all the other effects are based on susceptibilities, and do not actually increase damage. if the enemy is not weak to that particular attack, you will see no benefits whatsoever.
  •  07-02-2009, 1:09 3370403 in reply to 3370393

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    So if I had Devastation, Divine Favour, Flame, and Killerwatt all on the same weapon, I'd be doing max damage guaranteed, right?  Because everything is susceptible to at least one type on the weapon?  (Guards and villagers excluded.)

    And that's what I meant when I was talking about stacking.  Apparently, you're not the only one who misunderstood me.

  •  07-02-2009, 13:20 3370566 in reply to 3370403

    Re: Is the Luck and Skill Augment Pretty much Devastation and Lucky Charm?

    Shisou:
    So if I had Devastation, Divine Favour, Flame, and Killerwatt all on the same weapon, I'd be doing max damage guaranteed, right? 

    no. but if one of those were "flame's gift" or "positively charged" (flame/killerwatt + lucky charm) then yes.
    Shisou:
    Because everything is susceptible to at least one type on the weapon?  (Guards and villagers excluded.)

    as far as i can tell, no. there are some enemies that aren't especially susceptible to anything in particular.
    Shisou:
    And that's what I meant when I was talking about stacking.  Apparently, you're not the only one who misunderstood me.

    i was just trying to make sure everything was clear.
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