maggot: sim656:I'm sorry but the wii is not a gaming platform, nintendo no longer sell a games console, look at the figures: The wii has sold mostly because of Wii fit, that's not exactly a game And the nintendo DS has sold because of ''brain training'' I don't think microsoft has to release natal for this generation but it (probably) will. I ...

Microsoft needs to exercise its dominance over the gaming market once again. It has already been beaten by the Wii in the console wars at least as a far as sales figures go. I can't see Natal ever working in complex games such as Oblivion or Fable 2. The point of Natal is to make the console more interactive and family friendly than the Wii is. ...

i think i will stick to the fable soundtrack. i normally prefer the soundtrack of the games because some of them are really fantastic.

one problem with GAME though is that it mentions nothing about getting the pub games like the other websites do. i hope the fable II limited edition doesnt turn into the same fiasco that the bioshock one did. they were giving away big daddy figurines with the limited edition and when they arrived 3/4 were all broken.

i searched 'Achon Demon Door' in google and the only things that came up were things to do with TLC.

i will probs preorder it from game.co.uk but even that has no mention of the pub games on the product overview page

Elve: Why does the video diary take so long to buffer and download? I mean 3 hours for a download of a 3 minute video? Why does it take so long Even when I low stream it takes like forever to buffer!@   i use DAP to download everything i need: http://www.speedbit.com/ it finds more than one source for the download so you can download

TastyBeverage:Just as long as the diary isnt about E3 because then we will have seen everything already. yeah, that would suck.

im quite content just to forget about the pub games to be honest. i will probs download them eventually but i would rather get my money by doing jobs in-game.

goncalobms: EmperorBlue:i know we really shouldn't believe external websites reguarding release dates for games but both gamespot.com and game.co.uk have the release date down as October 17th. The retail agents here in the Netherlands are going for the 17th but it is still speculation! Both Gamespot and GAME have changed the dates to October