obviously not everyone is reading all the posts. I said back on page 6 or 7, installing to harddrive DOES NOT solve the problem. I installed to hardrive BEFORE the game was every played from a brand new disk. I played for over a week from the HD before I started having problems. Since I was already installed to hardrive before the problems ever ...

For the record, Installing F2 to the harddrive DOES NOT fix this problem. I installed F2 to the HDD before I ever played the game, I installed it the first time the disc was placed in the xbox. However, before I could install it, I was informed that there was an update, so I said yes to the update, then proceeded with the install to HDD.  Next